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this is another episode of ufo garage

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i'm ben

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and i'm joe and this is where we talk

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about ufos

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aliens and all things weird

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how you doing today man i'm doing swell

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man yeah yeah

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real good it's been a good day it has

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it's been a long day but

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yeah i'm excited because we're talking

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about

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sasquatch super cool

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because this is actually like our first

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uh actual

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episode that we're gonna do that's just

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solely based on

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on sasquatch yeah and having people that

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actually know what they are talking

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about

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instead of us like guessing and like

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like the rest of us right you're right

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people that have been in the field

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uh done documentaries and uh just been

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out there on foot

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in the woods and uh yeah man i'm excited

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man i'm excited

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too but uh today we have uh darcy weir

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and david

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ellis with us uh say what's up guys

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hey how's it going hey yeah you're doing

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good

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nice david i love that sasquatch image

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in the background man is that

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uh is that like a a a a shadow is it

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called shadow box or is it a flat

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flat surface well i've got a couple back

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there are you talking about the colored

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one you can that really stands out yeah

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that was uh given to me by an artist

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his name was michael beers and he just

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does some tremendous work

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but the what is shown there

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is very similar to what i saw

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in a thermal image so wow

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the the experience that i had was i was

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through monocular and of course it

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didn't have recording capabilities

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that's always the story right

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right so i'm looking at this

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white blob in the forest

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and i'm pretty sure that i'm looking at

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the broad side of an

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elk so that should tell you how wide

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it was at the shoulders um but it's

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in the brush and it's kind of obscured a

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little bit there's a

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a a white image on the left and a white

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image on the right in this kind of dark

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image in the middle where the brush is

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looking at an elk

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i can't even imagine that that situation

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like what like what i mean you know what

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you got to tell us now what did you do

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david i

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i went whoa

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[Laughter]

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so i uh i didn't take a step toward it

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if that's what you wanted to know well i

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was gonna say i don't know

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is there is there any uh sasquatch

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protocol

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like if you see a mountain lion you

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obviously you know you stay facing it

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but you back away

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and you you slowly you don't make any

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sudden movements is there

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well you're pretty much all that goes

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out the window because you're looking at

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goddamn sasquatch

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i'm sure yes i would feel the same way

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if i saw a mountain lion all protocols

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would probably be out the window

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so yeah i can only imagine

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the people that say they will do this

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and the calm mind and you know

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no you're looking at a sasquatch you're

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you know looking at something that

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doesn't exist

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and there it is you know

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it had uh it was cartoonish um

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the shoulders were like bowling balls

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uh reminiscent of what i'm seeing in

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that picture that you

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pointed out behind me so yeah that uh

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that picture that michael beers painted

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it reminds me totally of what i saw

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when i was looking at through a thermal

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at this thing and and so i i watched it

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and then uh there were some people that

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all of a sudden it started to go down

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the next thing it was just it was gone

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it went away dang whoa yeah

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yeah wow so uh david ellis uh

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we kind of heard a little bit from you i

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just wanted to say what's up to darcy

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he's a little quiet so i just wanted to

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say

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like yeah man tell us a little a little

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bit about yourself we'll come back to

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you david and

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just so we our listeners know who you

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guys are and what you've been up to sure

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um yeah i've just been waiting my turn

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politely

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um i'm a canadian guy

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i come from actually

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toronto ontario but i lived the last

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eight years in vancouver british

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columbia

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i've been making documentaries since

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basically i released my first one in

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2012 that was on

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phil schneider and underground bases and

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the extraterrestrial questions

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and i decided to focus my sights on

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bigfoot or sasquatch the canadian name

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it um and that was in 2015

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i was invited to learn more about these

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creatures in british columbia i was

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living in the

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the home of the

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uh coining of that name sasquatch i

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don't know if you get do you guys know

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where it came from

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no we didn't even realize it was

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canadian yeah awesome yeah

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yeah so sasquatch um the name comes from

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a a white guy that was living on an

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indigenous

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native canadian people's reserve in the

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he was studying their culture

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and not also teaching them white

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people's culture

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in a region called uh harrison hot

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springs that that sort of area of

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british columbia it's about two hours

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and his name was jw burns

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and yeah he kept hearing about their

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story in their

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uh oral tradition about a creature

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that lives in the woods that is like a

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wild man you know like a

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a sort of monkey type man

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uh that you know they they even tell

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their children

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uh their young children don't wander too

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far into the forest because the sasket

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you and their name is sasket the tribe

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is called the stehalis

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and um and and basically

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he pronounced it sasquatch

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instead of sasket uh and yeah that's

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that's where the word came from and uh i

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was living close to there i

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i went to the place where the word was

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coined and

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learned from a bunch of researchers that

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lived in the area about the stories

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of sightings that have been happening

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so there's lots of credible eyewitness

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sightings that have happened in

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british columbia canada and as you know

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and then that connects up to northern

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and david here is uh

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he's from he's from washington state and

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i met with him in 2019

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at a sasquatch summit

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um i think i met him at two conferences

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but uh where i actually got to interview

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him for this documentary that you you

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might have seen sasquatch among

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wildman um i

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sat down with him there and derek

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randles and shane corson

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and they started just giving me all

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their research on

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the nests and the vocalizations and

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all this incredible stuff that just uh

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adds up to a real story in my my eyes

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and um this is the second documentary

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that i've made

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the first one was called the unwanted

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um not not a lot of people have seen it

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it's not one of the

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super famous ones that's on netflix like

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uh i don't know that really bad uh

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one with todd standing but uh i saw it

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yeah oh okay yeah yeah cool so

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you know some people have seen it some

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people haven't and um

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i go about telling the story in more of

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a animal

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uh way you know um a cryptid

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sort of uh flesh flesh and blood

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that may rub people the wrong way but i

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just haven't had enough

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data to go by to

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prove that there's like a more

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paranormal sasquatch like a portal

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jumping one or whatever

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i'm not invalidating those but uh

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i've just focused right now so far on

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that sort of uh explanation for it yeah

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yeah well that makes sense man i mean if

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you look at it i mean dude

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even in the ufo community right i mean

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it's been it's been uh

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just crazy talk uh for you know over 70

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uh and and now we're starting to see

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within the past you know

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10 to you know even just up to recently

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oh my goodness maybe this isn't as crazy

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after all you know it's it's it's i feel

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like it's

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it's the same thing with the sasquatch

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community

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uh it's just gonna get so there's gonna

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be just so many eyewitnesses that

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you know i always like to say like how

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many people have to see something before

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they're not crazy anymore

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you know yeah and you know

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you know as ufo guys we get it all the

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time yeah that's that's crazy that's

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impossible

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we look at the you know you have a lot

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of nuts and bolts people

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and that's all fine and good you know

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the ufo community has been doing nuts

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years and now it's just starting to

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transition into this like

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oh we're gonna start talking about

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portals and like inter-dimensionality

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and all this other stuff you know i mean

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i think i think sasquatch could possibly

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go that way in the future like you said

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there's been plenty of accounts of

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people who have seen it

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uh but all you can go off is is the nuts

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and bolts or the science

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as of now right yeah and also yeah and

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also proof

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like people want proof and i mean david

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that's kind of where you come in is

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you've been out in the field doing proof

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gathering evidence and data well yeah

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actually it's not proof um we do

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the the null hypothesis which is

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we assume everything that we find

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has a natural um

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source a known source and we

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eliminate all the possibilities of the

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knowns

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so if i record a vocalization i have to

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assume that it's a wolf

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a coyote a dog or something that

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howls and then so i have to go through

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the process

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of eliminating all of those

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possibilities because

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of this factor or that factor so we

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actually at the olympic project take you

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know just um

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we're not out to prove the existence of

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bigfoot the assumption is bigfoot

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doesn't exist

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but all these crazy things are happening

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let's uh let's take a look at it and so

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what we do is we

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we've vet physical evidence that's why

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i'm into

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to the sound we also look at uh track

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uh trackways and track castings and what

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we can learn from that

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and um i don't you familiar with the

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name dr

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jeff meldrum that's his name

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i don't wasn't he in the unwanted

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sasquatch documentary

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yep that was him yeah he's in his

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laboratory in idaho state

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university yeah so i'm i'm familiar with

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him

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yeah we

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we know jeff real well and uh

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he he's a big promoter of us because we

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we we do the what we do is collect

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evidence and get it to the point where

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science maybe can do something with

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it because you know we're not scientists

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now we don't write research papers but

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if we get the

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enough evidence going in a certain

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direction where a scientist looks at it

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and goes wow you guys have done your

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homework

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then we can say well you know take it

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and run with it and give

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write a research paper so um you know

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that's kind of the direction that we're

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headed we're not

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we're not trying to prove the existence

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everybody that's in the olympic project

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has had an experience like the one that

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i related where we

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we know they're the out there it is so

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we're not trying to prove it to anybody

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how can we can't collect enough evidence

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for science to really take a look at it

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that's that's where we're going right

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yeah

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i could go in so many different ways but

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uh without saying too much about the

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the documentary or both of the

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documentaries darcy like where do you

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personally stand on what's next for

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for sasquatch i mean is it is it like

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okay so

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everybody's got to know that it's real

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or

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everybody's got to know that there's

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just something out there we don't know

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what it is

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maybe it's not sasquatch like where do

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you stand uh being the director of these

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films

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um i'm i'm thoroughly convinced that

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um these things exist

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internationally you know in my first

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documentary i was

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basically trying to compile as much

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relevant and truthful

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data and present that to make the case

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that over the years in canada and the

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united states

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there's been sightings very credible

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sightings and

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some of them have heralded great video

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quality too and obviously patterson

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gimlin is probably the most

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important sighting that's been captured

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on film

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some people don't believe that that's

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real but

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i would say a hundred percent that's

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probably the best

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footage we've ever had until we get

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something like that again i mean it's a

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daylight sighting

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um the so many people have gone

390
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and broken down that film clip

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and just done a stellar job on proving

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that it's

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a certain height it has female anatomy

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um even you know it's too bad shane

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corson

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isn't on but he highlights on some of

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these

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podcasts uh we've done before that

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uh lyle i think is lyle everett

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who is a logger in that area

401
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during the the around the same time that

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that

403
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film was recorded uh lyle labrady sorry

404
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lyle laverty he found uh

405
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what looked like a nest in scorpion

406
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creek which was actually

407
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a creek that just went above bluff creek

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where that film was shot and so

409
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if you look at patty in that film she

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looks like she's

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you know female big bosoms

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and that could be a sign that she was

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pregnant recently

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and if you look at the research that

415
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the olympic project has been doing and

416
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in this new film

417
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sasquatch among wild men they've found a

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nesting area

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where there's been i believe it's up to

420
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20 nests now but in the documentary we

421
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research you know this area that they

422
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found

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eight seven to eight nests i think and

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uh

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they're right around a really good food

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source

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they're very off the beaten trail very

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far away from

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where we're active and

430
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people are hypothesizing that if these

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are nests

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for sasquatch or bigfoot in other words

433
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uh possibly it's a place where they're

434
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raising young because

435
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the the geographical area would be

436
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perfect for all the food that they can

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take from the land and take from the

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river the creek that's right down below

439
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and perhaps that's what patty was kind

440
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of using

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uh bluff creek for at the time that they

442
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stumbled upon her

443
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wow so this this uh

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this will kind of i guess show my

445
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ignorance a little bit on the on the

446
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subject but

447
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has anybody we've okay so we found the

448
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nests

449
00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:28,400
has anybody just been like i'm gonna

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camp here for a week

451
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and just wait for it to come home i mean

452
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obviously you probably don't want to be

453
00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:34,160
that guy who waits for

454
00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:36,000
sasquatch to come home who knows what's

455
00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,440
going to happen but i mean

456
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well camera in the tree or you know yeah

457
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shane

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olympic project member uh

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i think this was in february of this

460
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year

461
00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:56,080
the pandemic was hitting the world

462
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they did one last trip out to this area

463
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where

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we report on all this stuff again i was

465
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collecting all this data in 2019

466
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right from from these guys and um

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his report recently is that when they

468
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came across

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this new nest it was being

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built by something as they were coming

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across it

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so yeah so there's there's definitely

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a lot of that going on in the area and i

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think the plan is

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to do an expedition where they can camp

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out

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and really try and track down what's

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building these nests you know and get

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some more proof of it

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yeah if i could clarify just a little

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bit

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um about the nests please do um

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yeah uh they were actually found by a

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timber cruiser

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and uh this is private timber that um

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that they were found in locked gates uh

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you know a remote area

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and we were contacted because derrick

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randles

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had done some work for the timber

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company owner

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and when the timber cruiser relayed to

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him the nest that he had found

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and that he had never ever seen anything

495
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like it in his 30-year career plus

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of you know marking timber anything

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like it they were not bareness

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he knew what a bear nest looked like he

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knew how a bear nest was constructed

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but these were constructed like a a bird

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nest if you will

502
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but huge and uh they had

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dr meldrum discovered upon taking uh

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one of them apart that there were some

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um

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uh angular sticks that were jammed into

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the ground that helped

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hold the formation of the nests so

509
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it wasn't just you know

510
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laying some sticks on the ground these

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were

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of them had

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the same signature of snapping that's

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the same

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there were different sizes and they were

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um along a ridge line uh

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like darcy said that um showed

518
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that there was some strategy to where

519
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they were placed

520
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there was a creek down below and then up

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above

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them were just acres and acres of

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huckleberry uh bushes they were really

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really obscured in the location that

525
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they were in

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i mean it would take you uh

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a half an hour to go a quarter of a mile

528
00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:56,640
through this stuff it was

529
00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:00,640
just a slogging so they were hidden

530
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and they knew what they were doing and

531
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then the way they had

532
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built the eight nests that we found

533
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was that there was a perimeter and then

534
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there was a

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inside grouping that was inside this

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perimeter and the smaller nests were

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inside the perimeter and the larger

538
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nests were

539
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:23,360
outside that perimeter wow wow

540
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:26,480
that's cool there was also uh

541
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:30,159
two scored rocks uh by scoring i mean

542
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they had been

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00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:34,640
hit together and the the there was still

544
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:35,679
markings on the

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the rocks and that's part of what we

546
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:38,720
know

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00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,919
about um possible sasquatch behavior

548
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:44,000
is that there's something that we call

549
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:45,280
rock knocking

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where they'll knock two objects together

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and we believe

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you know or i shouldn't say believe that

553
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:56,000
we hypothesize that

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00:22:02,549 --> 00:21:59,440
it's a stealthy form of communication

555
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:02,559
doing doing a wood knock or a rock knock

556
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:06,720
um and it also if you think about it

557
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:09,840
alerts another sasquatch

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00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:12,880
i'm armed uh and dangerous

559
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:16,000
yeah yeah yeah you

560
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:17,679
hit on a very important thing as well

561
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:19,919
like a lot of our listeners are new to

562
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,559
the subject

563
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so i when i we first started the podcast

564
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,440
you know i knew what bigfoot was

565
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,679
but i didn't know that there's evidence

566
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or well

567
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,159
hypotheses as you say david like

568
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,559
that there's not just one there's we're

569
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:36,559
talking about nests we're talking about

570
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:40,400
uh territorial actions that right

571
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:43,600
like yeah we speculate that the the the

572
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,640
um reason that these nests were built

573
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:48,320
because you just don't find nests

574
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:51,840
nests are it's really

575
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:55,679
rare to find any any you you'll find

576
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:58,320
mentions of it here and there throughout

577
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,039
history

578
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:01,120
but you really have to look it's not a

579
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:02,480
common thing

580
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,440
it's a it's a very rare thing to find

581
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:07,280
something of this nature

582
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:10,720
and nobody to my knowledge has found any

583
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,080
the way that these were constructed so

584
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:16,799
that tells me something that that there

585
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:19,039
it's a rare scenario

586
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:23,520
um that this was most likely

587
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:27,280
in our opinion a birthing scenario

588
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:30,159
where they were protecting you know the

589
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:31,520
birthing mother

590
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:35,200
and um they had their clan if you will

591
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:38,880
with them there was um

592
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:41,919
a smaller nest that was

593
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:44,880
uh found that was being constructed in a

594
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,760
bush

595
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,520
and we thought that that was odd until

596
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:49,760
we found out that

597
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:52,159
lowland gorillas teach sir young how to

598
00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:55,840
make a nest by making it in a bush

599
00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:59,200
so um you know there's some there's some

600
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:02,799
reality based in some of our assumptions

601
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:06,559
so um using primate

602
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:09,679
uh behavior as a model

603
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:13,840
yeah so yeah these were these were um

604
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:16,880
extremely rare things that we found

605
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:20,640
and um we're finding out more and more

606
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:23,520
as we delve into it and um darcy's

607
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,400
correct uh

608
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:27,200
shane did stumble upon what was an

609
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,400
apparent

610
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:31,440
scenario because they had piled up the

611
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:32,240
same

612
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:34,960
kind of material the um huckleberry

613
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:37,120
branches were piled up and left

614
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,320
in an area and when shane had his

615
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:42,480
um encounter where he couldn't see what

616
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,919
it was but he could hear it

617
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:46,480
definitely could hear it wow so with

618
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,120
this yeah

619
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:49,440
with the assumption on uh the the

620
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,480
birthing process

621
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:53,200
i guess for like a sasquatch would be

622
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:53,840
like

623
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:56,080
your your typical primate or is there

624
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:58,080
any like maybe evidence or ideas that

625
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,200
i don't know maybe you have like a

626
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,440
platypus situation where maybe sasquatch

627
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:03,440
lays eggs

628
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:06,559
you know i don't know i well no we don't

629
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,200
know but

630
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,440
our assumption is that they have so many

631
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:11,679
attributes similar to a human

632
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,799
and uh primate that uh they're

633
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:17,120
going through the same type of a process

634
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,559
what we don't know is

635
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,880
you know length of gestation now that

636
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:22,080
that could vary

637
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:24,880
but i'm very definitely sure that it is

638
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:25,520
a

639
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:31,200
process

640
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:34,799
throughout like the history of

641
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:38,240
sightings and

642
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:41,679
credible eyewitness accounts

643
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,360
for sasquatch and bigfoot there's always

644
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:46,960
been tales of you know

645
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,159
really small ones really tall ones

646
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:53,679
so i think if you are to assume that

647
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:54,240
these

648
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:58,640
are a tribal scarce population of a sort

649
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:58,880
of

650
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,600
upright ape that still exists in north

651
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:03,840
america

652
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:06,400
it's safe to assume that there's young

653
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:07,919
and that they're born

654
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:11,039
and even yeah david's got a cast of a

655
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,320
baby foot that they

656
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:14,960
they found um there's a lamp yeah i

657
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:15,520
guess

658
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:18,159
a second ago in in the middle of nowhere

659
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:19,919
i remember when i was interviewing him

660
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:20,720
for this

661
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,840
documentary his background picture for

662
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,440
his desktop is him

663
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:27,679
a picture of him casting these little

664
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:29,120
tracks that are in

665
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:31,120
like the middle of the woods you know

666
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:32,640
that look like a

667
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:35,120
a baby's foot but it's like there's no

668
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:36,159
humans around there

669
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:37,760
why would a baby be walking in the

670
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:39,200
middle of the forest right

671
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,640
right so um and you know you can

672
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:45,039
look at the unwanted sasquatch and the

673
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,640
jaco capture

674
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,880
that's a famous uh story that happened

675
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:50,559
in the 1800s

676
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:53,919
in canada up in yale bc and

677
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:57,039
jaco from all accounts

678
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:00,559
was four to five feet tall

679
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:03,919
and in the 1800s they didn't have

680
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,640
apes or gorillas or anything like that

681
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:07,840
in north america

682
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,000
not yet you know the first would have

683
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:12,400
been sort of showing up in

684
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:15,120
uh the old world like england and stuff

685
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:16,720
like that right because they're closer

686
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:17,679
to africa

687
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,240
yeah but so broadcast brought in for

688
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,080
like uh

689
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:24,720
human uh like zoos and things like that

690
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:26,320
or uh

691
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,600
yeah like i'm just saying in north

692
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:30,880
america

693
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,559
there was no apes that were catalogued

694
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:37,039
okay but exactly um didn't accept us

695
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,600
yeah

696
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,600
except for us we are homo we are

697
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,279
hominids it's true

698
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,440
uh we're just homo sapiens are the the

699
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:45,440
very top of the intelligence

700
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,909
but yeah so it's it's it seems like

701
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:58,799
there's always these tales of

702
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:01,039
what could be described as young

703
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,880
sasquatch there's been pictures there's

704
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,679
been video

705
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,000
throughout history when people report

706
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:08,640
this this creature

707
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,720
that's pretty incredible i'd never even

708
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:12,000
thought about it but

709
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:15,440
you bring it up uh yeah in the middle of

710
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,159
the woods

711
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,200
there's a baby foot and like

712
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:20,880
that's one of those things we're like oh

713
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:22,159
i don't believe in bigfoot and then

714
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:23,120
you're like well

715
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,440
can you tell me what this tiny baby foot

716
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,880
is in the middle of

717
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:29,200
of washington state in the middle of the

718
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:30,080
woods is yeah

719
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:32,559
you know it's kind of like oh well i

720
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:33,440
don't know

721
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,200
you would have a rebuttal for that like

722
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:37,440
how deep in the woods were these found

723
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:40,880
like is this off of a a trail or

724
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,919
was this uh pretty pretty deep in the

725
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,880
woods

726
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:47,039
well actually they weren't deep in the

727
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:48,640
woods um

728
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:52,559
there was a place that i went to for

729
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:56,159
um quite a few years in a row where

730
00:29:02,310 --> 00:28:59,520
uh tracks were being found

731
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,320
like all the way up to the to when they

732
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:04,240
closed the area where i couldn't get in

733
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:07,919
because of snow reasons um

734
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:11,200
but uh they the tracks

735
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:14,799
were walking the edge lane of the

736
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:18,080
receding reservoir so

737
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:21,520
tracks were being laid late

738
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:27,350
the snowy period the icy period they

739
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:29,120
were always there

740
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:33,039
so i could always find them um

741
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:37,120
this particular baby foot impression

742
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,799
was um found with another set of tracks

743
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:42,880
and the other set of tracks the

744
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:44,080
footprints

745
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:47,120
were about six inches long

746
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:50,960
and uh it appeared that

747
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:54,320
some for whatever reason i believe it

748
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:54,640
was

749
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:57,760
carrying this younger one these six

750
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,520
inch tracks and there was a stagger foot

751
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,520
a left foot was forward the right foot

752
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:04,720
was back

753
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:08,880
and this one impression was uh

754
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:12,240
like towards the front left foot so it

755
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:12,799
would be

756
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,440
you know if somebody was holding it uh

757
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:17,919
face forward and it got a foot down

758
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,399
on the ground it wriggled free somehow

759
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:22,480
maybe yeah

760
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:26,399
and i got a really nice deep impression

761
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:29,840
much deeper than a human could could do

762
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:32,880
and the heel is about

763
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:36,559
twice the size of a human heel it is

764
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:40,320
it is half the foot so um the bone

765
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:41,600
structure

766
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:45,840
is uh amazing the

767
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,039
for the size of the foot a baby's heel

768
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:52,320
would be half of what this heel is

769
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,919
so there's there's something going on

770
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:55,600
with the bone structure there that's

771
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:56,080
pretty

772
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,519
amazing it also shows a flex

773
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,200
in the foot that goes all the way

774
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,360
through now to be fair

775
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,919
humans have that same flexibility at an

776
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:07,039
early age

777
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:10,159
but as we start wearing shoes we fuse

778
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:13,919
that um that joint so it doesn't

779
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:17,039
actually work anymore uh it doesn't work

780
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:18,320
the way a barefoot

781
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:21,440
um subject would

782
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,480
or where that is constantly in motion so

783
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:27,120
uh it's a it's a it's a gripping thing

784
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,559
if you can

785
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,880
like we'll see where my knuckle is yeah

786
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,559
that's that's what the

787
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:34,880
what's called the mid tarsal break

788
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,320
that's in the middle of the

789
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:39,039
of the foot towards the heel and that's

790
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:39,760
that's the

791
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:43,120
ability to to flex that that foot

792
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:47,120
and um yeah so and also this is called

793
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,480
prehensile grip yeah thanks

794
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,480
it means they're they're grasping things

795
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:54,320
with their feet kind of like a hand

796
00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:58,080
but also uh with the mid-tarsal break

797
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:01,039
um jeff meldrum will say is that instead

798
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:02,000
of it

799
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:05,200
bending its foot uh like we do

800
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:07,200
when we walk we walk we kind of swing

801
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:09,519
our feet like a pendulum

802
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:13,919
and that's to reduce energy it's it's to

803
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:15,519
not use as much energy it's

804
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,399
it's an efficiency thing and when we're

805
00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:20,080
swinging our feet like that

806
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,640
we usually bend at the front of our feet

807
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:24,240
we bend our toes

808
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,840
and then our foot comes off the ground

809
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:27,360
like that well

810
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,320
in videos where like for example again

811
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:32,320
the patterson gimlin film

812
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:36,240
or um in the tracks themselves you can

813
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:36,559
see

814
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:39,279
signs that the foot is bending at the

815
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:40,480
back

816
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:43,519
and that allows them to

817
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,799
reduce the weight and the stress on

818
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:48,640
their legs especially if they're

819
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:51,760
a really large creature that may be 800

820
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:53,679
pounds a thousand pounds

821
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:57,360
in size the the legs the calf muscles

822
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,320
and such

823
00:33:01,909 --> 00:33:01,039
would need to get more rest and if

824
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:01,919
they're

825
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,399
walking like us they would be putting

826
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:06,080
all that pressure on the front of their

827
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,960
foot

828
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:09,200
which is not as efficient when you're

829
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,000
walking through the

830
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:13,360
forest and and through uh clinal

831
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,399
terrain yeah i i that's really

832
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:18,640
interesting like the way we walk it's so

833
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:20,480
it's so meant for sidewalk it's not

834
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,000
funny and shoes too

835
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,640
yeah i i've two points the first one is

836
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:26,000
who's walking around

837
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:32,389
iced uh mud and whatever that's

838
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,000
ridiculous like

839
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,320
if you're gonna find a baby footprint

840
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:38,799
and it's barefoot

841
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:40,799
okay yeah that that tells me right there

842
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,200
that's either something weird and who's

843
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:44,720
who's letting their child out

844
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:47,279
barefoot or or it's something we can't

845
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:47,760
really

846
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:50,240
yeah it's either bad parenting or uh

847
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,590
just to be on the contrary inside just

848
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:00,000
so you know like we have well like i

849
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,760
said we look at everything

850
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,200
i have discovered that there are

851
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:05,200
barefoot clubs

852
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,480
there are uh groups of people that will

853
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:10,639
walk around barefoot

854
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,839
yeah that's almost like more

855
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:16,000
unbelievable than saskatchewan i think

856
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:20,510
they call those dirty hippies right

857
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:30,069
you know as far as percentages go it's

858
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:31,440
maybe improbable

859
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:34,159
you know yeah the likelihood of it being

860
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,359
that reason

861
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:37,839
is less less likely yeah i've looked at

862
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:38,720
um

863
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,599
foot casts and when you look at some of

864
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:43,599
the really large specimen

865
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,000
like uh dr meldrum goes over the

866
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:51,119
bosberg cripplefoot or the dev or even

867
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:51,839
paddy's

868
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:58,000
when you look at the cast really closely

869
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,359
you can see what's called dermal ridges

870
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:04,320
and dermal ridges are evident on our

871
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,440
fingertips

872
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,119
those dermal ridges whenever they take

873
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,119
our fingerprints you know when you get

874
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:11,520
booked at the jail or whatever

875
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:14,160
and they're inking your fingertips those

876
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:14,880
ridges

877
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,160
that are being left on the paper is what

878
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:21,040
identifies you you know your print yeah

879
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:22,480
and when you look at these

880
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:25,359
casts the really credible the really

881
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,320
impressive

882
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:29,280
really large feet we're talking like 15

883
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:30,640
inches

884
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:34,480
16 like outside the normal these are not

885
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,079
shaquille o'neal feet

886
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,320
they're bigger than that and when you

887
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:39,359
look at those

888
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:43,040
you see ridges dermal ridges all around

889
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,480
the foot you know

890
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:46,720
around the toes around the sides of the

891
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:47,680
foot

892
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:50,960
and that would denote that

893
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:54,720
these creatures have very thick skin

894
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:57,760
which would help them to walk on this

895
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,000
type

896
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,720
of terrain walk on snow and not feel as

897
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:01,680
cold

898
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,800
um bare feet uh

899
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,440
people would not feel that comfortable

900
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:08,960
if they were doing the same thing

901
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,079
right yeah that's the bad parenting is

902
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:14,720
there like a database somewhere that has

903
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,440
uh like a collection of of the dermal

904
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:18,960
ridges that have been found

905
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:21,920
in castings like maybe you can track

906
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:23,599
okay there may have been a sasquatch

907
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,240
here

908
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,400
and then you go to a state over and then

909
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,079
you find this cast and it just so

910
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:29,680
happens that the dermal ridges like

911
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,400
match

912
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:32,160
from a different state like i mean if

913
00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:33,280
you're a criminal and they have your

914
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,640
thumb print then they can find your

915
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,320
print no matter where you are

916
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:38,960
is there a database that holds that sure

917
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:39,760
yeah

918
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:43,760
to that

919
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:46,240
yeah there is uh two collections that

920
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,119
i'm aware of

921
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,160
that have um and i'm just actually be

922
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:52,000
starting to become aware of a third

923
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,440
third collection or

924
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:55,599
somebody that's collected a tremendous

925
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:56,640
amount of

926
00:37:02,069 --> 00:37:00,000
impressions but dr meldrum and

927
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:02,079
uh cliff barackman have probably the

928
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:03,760
most extensive

929
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,040
foot impression collection out there

930
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,359
and they have done the very thing that

931
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:11,040
you're talking about

932
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:13,599
in comparing some footprints and going

933
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,240
you know

934
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,800
i think this is the same individual even

935
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:17,599
though the

936
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,040
the foot looks different then

937
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:23,359
what's amazing is when you start getting

938
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:24,240
into

939
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:27,520
foot impressions the the way the foot

940
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:30,560
reacts to the ground is is never the

941
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,079
same

942
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,480
i found a track line that would

943
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:36,079
absolutely amaze you

944
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:37,920
that you you couldn't believe that the

945
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:40,320
same this was the same foot

946
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:43,359
because it looked different in four of

947
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,680
the

948
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,599
castings that i made it just looks

949
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:47,040
completely different but it's the same

950
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:48,880
foot as the same track line

951
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,520
but it just conformed to the ground

952
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:52,800
differently

953
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:55,359
so that's when you know that you you're

954
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:57,760
dealing with a living organic

955
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:04,230
when you find something that has a lot

956
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:04,720
of

957
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,359
difference right rather than like like a

958
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,880
template one of those like i think one

959
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:09,760
of the hoaxers

960
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,640
where where yeah right and the unwanted

961
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:14,079
a stomper yeah

962
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,920
stomper right right so

963
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,480
i've seen like uh castings of of some

964
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:22,560
feet that their their toes are like

965
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:26,000
almost to the side a little bit is that

966
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,280
something that you guys have

967
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,599
i i think you showed that it shows it

968
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:30,960
shows signs of

969
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,280
prehensile grip if their toes are

970
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:35,200
splayed like that it's almost like a

971
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,599
hand

972
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,440
right and they're using their toes to

973
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,359
grip something a little bit more

974
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,920
than like our feet the toes usually stay

975
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,200
completely straight

976
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:45,200
right and we're used to walking like

977
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,960
that um

978
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,680
but to add to your question about hey

979
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:52,000
where would i go to find like a database

980
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,599
of this stuff if you

981
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,599
have a computer there and you want to do

982
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:56,720
a quick little

983
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:59,839
research exercise you can just type into

984
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:00,079
your

985
00:39:08,670 --> 00:39:04,240
google browser there bfr o

986
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:10,790
bfro.net

987
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,079
and then when you're on.net you'll see

988
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:16,560
the home page there and on the left side

989
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:18,800
you've got reports added recently but

990
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,280
then you have sightings by region

991
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:24,240
if you click sightings by region then

992
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:24,960
you're going to get

993
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:28,079
all the states in the united states and

994
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,040
you're going to get

995
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,839
a number of listings so if i go to texas

996
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:32,880
where you guys are

997
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,720
yeah there's 200 250 that's a lot

998
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,200
yeah it's a lot and there's been tales

999
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:41,520
of all kinds of sightings in texas for a

1000
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:42,720
long time

1001
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:46,240
so even 1979

1002
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:49,520
i'm seeing one there 1977

1003
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:52,640
it shows the county that it was reported

1004
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,000
a number of listings in that county

1005
00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,440
so for for example lamar in 2004

1006
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,480
had four listings

1007
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,960
this is a pretty cool database i would i

1008
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:06,480
would lean on this if you want to look

1009
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:07,440
up some

1010
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:10,240
interesting stories and many of these

1011
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,880
end up

1012
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:12,960
being police reports because these

1013
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,720
people are seeing

1014
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,640
something and they're calling the police

1015
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:18,480
like this was really weird what i just

1016
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,359
saw

1017
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,520
it seemed to be like some kind of animal

1018
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,680
that ran in front of my car

1019
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,359
you know that type of thing or came

1020
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,440
across the campground

1021
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:29,119
people get spooked when they see them

1022
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:30,800
because they don't look

1023
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:33,760
like a harmless thing you know they look

1024
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:34,480
like

1025
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:38,000
spooks a lot

1026
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:41,680
of people and there's not a lot of

1027
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,400
reports

1028
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:45,680
of them uh doing harm to people

1029
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:48,640
but there are reports of uh albert

1030
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:49,920
ostermann is

1031
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:53,200
is a famous guy in canada that said

1032
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:55,359
he was abducted by one when he was a

1033
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:56,319
child

1034
00:41:02,630 --> 00:40:59,520
a couple years back a kid went missing

1035
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,640
and when the kid turned up uh i can't

1036
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:04,079
remember where

1037
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:05,680
what state this was in in the united

1038
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:07,599
states but he said

1039
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:10,400
uh a bear took care of me and we all

1040
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:10,720
know

1041
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:14,079
bears don't usually take care of kids

1042
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,000
so by taking care

1043
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:20,800
it's like slowly rotisserie instead of

1044
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:26,790
yeah more of a more of a soup vibe

1045
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,160
yeah yeah so um

1046
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:32,079
there's there's some incredible reports

1047
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:33,599
out there that have been happening all

1048
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:34,079
across

1049
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:37,440
you scroll down

1050
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:40,560
even further there's canadian reports

1051
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,280
you know all

1052
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:43,920
provinces and territories of canada and

1053
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:44,319
there's

1054
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,680
many many many in british columbia

1055
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,319
which were where i did most my studying

1056
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:52,319
before i ran into

1057
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,000
uh jeff meldrum and and these guys yeah

1058
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:58,079
wow man this is i'm so glad you asked

1059
00:42:02,309 --> 00:41:59,200
that question joe because like

1060
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,319
i would never have known this and and

1061
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,160
man this is amazing i'm gonna have to

1062
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:06,000
search through every

1063
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:07,920
town in texas there's there's also like

1064
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:09,760
and i would assume it's also

1065
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:11,680
i mean you know the the dermal ridges

1066
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,040
yeah but i would assume it's also

1067
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:15,599
probably the same with the vocalizations

1068
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:17,200
i mean like they do with like whales and

1069
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,800
stuff they can classify

1070
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:21,280
and like figure out oh hey that's willy

1071
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:22,160
speaking

1072
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,160
you know we can tell by his sound or

1073
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:25,680
whatever

1074
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,880
maybe yeah yeah that i i'm um

1075
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,200
of the opinion that they they know who

1076
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,640
they're communicating with

1077
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:35,280
and and and probably have that

1078
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:36,960
capability of

1079
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:40,000
uh knowing some nuance

1080
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,440
you're i think that's what you're

1081
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:43,200
intimate yeah

1082
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,640
yeah do they is there a uh

1083
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,640
so i mean i guess this too i mean is

1084
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,000
there a database that

1085
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,800
you know that you guys use as uh you

1086
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,000
know going out and doing the

1087
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:57,359
research and stuff uh uh like a database

1088
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:57,680
of

1089
00:43:00,790 --> 00:43:00,079
sounds so when you do hear something odd

1090
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,800
you can say

1091
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:02,960
okay well i have a database with like

1092
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:04,160
over 100

1093
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:07,119
000 wolf sounds and like 500 bear sounds

1094
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:07,680
and

1095
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:10,839
all these other things to compare it to

1096
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:14,480
yes yes yes there is

1097
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:17,680
uh the macaulay library of sound

1098
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:21,359
it's um part of cornell

1099
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:24,480
university but um they have

1100
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:28,240
the library macaulay library and

1101
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:32,720
they have a huge orientology department

1102
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,280
so they

1103
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:35,599
have just about every bird species on

1104
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:36,400
the planet

1105
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:40,000
identified but they also have as a

1106
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:43,760
a huge uh library of

1107
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:46,640
known animals and that's my go-to source

1108
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:47,440
when

1109
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:50,560
i you know okay that vocalization

1110
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:53,200
sounds like it could be a bear so i'll

1111
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:53,599
go

1112
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,400
and and and review and brush up and

1113
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:58,400
listen to some bear recordings

1114
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:01,440
and the other thing that i do

1115
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,200
that um a lot of people don't but

1116
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,200
there's more people that are getting on

1117
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,680
board with the bio acoustic method of

1118
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:10,800
study

1119
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:14,000
which is reviewing audio visually

1120
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:17,200
i'll let that sink in i really view this

1121
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,079
sound visually and and it's not waveform

1122
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:22,240
you're probably familiar with

1123
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:25,280
audio visually being spikes up and down

1124
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:28,560
spikes yep well um

1125
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:34,390
the the way i review it is through a

1126
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:35,520
spectrogram which

1127
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,720
yields uh way more information it's down

1128
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,160
to like fingerprint

1129
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:43,440
type information wow so the signatures

1130
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:46,800
are really intricate and

1131
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,319
you can tell okay that is a coyote okay

1132
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:53,680
um that isn't a barred owl i mean you

1133
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,079
can get

1134
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,880
really specific uh with the the

1135
00:45:02,390 --> 00:44:58,880
signatures

1136
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,400
so um yeah what i do

1137
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:04,480
is when i can't find a signature that

1138
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:05,599
matches then i

1139
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:08,160
compartmentalize it and say okay that

1140
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:10,720
belongs into a grouping called howls

1141
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,839
and i and i put uh that grouping

1142
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:14,800
together

1143
00:45:20,470 --> 00:45:18,160
but as far as a a

1144
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:20,480
source there are several folks that have

1145
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,440
got

1146
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:24,400
sounds that they've recorded but it's

1147
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:24,800
not

1148
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:28,000
all of them like i have thousands

1149
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:30,640
of clips of sounds but it's just my

1150
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:31,280
personal

1151
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,800
information right so and um that's why

1152
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,240
it's so important i feel like

1153
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,560
that we joe you just kind of asked that

1154
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,000
question to kind of set it up

1155
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:42,480
because uh david you sent us some audio

1156
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:43,440
recordings

1157
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,640
and it's good to know that that's your

1158
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,880
process uh and darcy too like with your

1159
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:48,720
information and your documentary

1160
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,680
uh documentary style uh i i just love

1161
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,119
that that you guys do your

1162
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:55,280
your homework before just putting it out

1163
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,560
there for people to

1164
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:58,640
to make up their minds for themselves it

1165
00:46:02,950 --> 00:45:59,599
feels like you guys

1166
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:02,960
really do so most of the homework

1167
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,760
yeah i never claim any of my stuff is

1168
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:07,520
actual sasquatch

1169
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:11,119
i will say that i highly suspect

1170
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,240
that it's uh could go that direction but

1171
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,079
you always want to leave yourself some

1172
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:17,839
room that you could be wrong

1173
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:20,640
you could be you know at a later date

1174
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:21,839
proven that this

1175
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,200
is actually a known sound yeah so

1176
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,200
when that happens then you eliminate

1177
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,520
that you know that particular sound nope

1178
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,359
that's coyote that's always going to be

1179
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,920
a coyote i can't change the fact

1180
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,839
right because it sounds a little bit

1181
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,119
weird

1182
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:39,200
that it's not a coyote so yeah you know

1183
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:40,319
that

1184
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,000
we do uh and i am willing to

1185
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:47,119
somebody will say to my recordings

1186
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:50,720
uh oh no no that is xyz i know what

1187
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:53,520
the animal that is well now they've got

1188
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:55,119
to go through the same process that i

1189
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,000
did

1190
00:47:02,710 --> 00:46:59,200
you've got to prove why you know it

1191
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:02,720
is this creature and you have to show me

1192
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:06,000
visually why it is

1193
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:09,440
so we're all on the same level uh when

1194
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,000
we're

1195
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,599
speculating because

1196
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,280
oh i know that's a coyote because i've

1197
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:17,040
heard them all my life right

1198
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:20,240
wow is there a is there any evidence or

1199
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:22,880
have you ever heard anything of like

1200
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,680
you know sasquatch uh mimicking other

1201
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,200
animals like maybe for

1202
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,760
you know trying to stay hidden i'll

1203
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:31,359
sound like a frog or i'll sound like a

1204
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:32,160
bird

1205
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,440
or anything like that yes yes and the

1206
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:37,680
only reason i know it's a mimic

1207
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:41,680
is that they called my dog by name what

1208
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:48,390
oh my god i would run so fast that's

1209
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,720
that's almost creepier than like hearing

1210
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,599
like a big whoop or like a howl in the

1211
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,119
distance but if you're like

1212
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:58,160
you know a sparky

1213
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,200
pick up my dog so if they can do that

1214
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:03,119
then i would say that they probably can

1215
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,640
move a canal

1216
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,800
dude that's insane dude i mean maybe

1217
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,079
they know maybe they know

1218
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,040
english right you know um no i don't

1219
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:12,880
think they know english the

1220
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,040
and the reason i say that is that it

1221
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:16,960
just seems like they're

1222
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:19,359
very quick phrases the phoneme stream

1223
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,319
which is a

1224
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:23,200
stringing together vowels and consonants

1225
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:24,480
into words

1226
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:27,040
is very limited it's like three words

1227
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:27,920
tops

1228
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,599
it's kind of like a parrot yeah yeah

1229
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:33,599
wow that's that's pretty impressive yeah

1230
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:34,720
that's neat that's

1231
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:37,440
really neat my mom has a pair of african

1232
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,079
gray

1233
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:40,400
that uh that he can he could say a few

1234
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:42,079
phrases but then he kind of just

1235
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,440
starts to make stuff up but you can

1236
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:45,359
always tell that uh

1237
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,880
it's it's a bird if you're listening but

1238
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,480
if you're not really paying attention

1239
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,400
and you walk into the house he'll say

1240
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,079
like hello what's up boys

1241
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,559
and i'm like what what dad because he

1242
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,880
sounds just like my dad

1243
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,640
that's hilarious it's pretty neat have

1244
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:00,319
you guys ever heard

1245
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:03,920
the sierra sounds by ron moorhead

1246
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:06,960
i don't think so tell us about it so

1247
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:11,200
those were recorded in the 70s and um

1248
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:14,400
these guys ron moorhead al berry and

1249
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:17,119
a bunch of other guys that were camping

1250
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:17,440
in

1251
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:20,960
the northern sierras of california

1252
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,440
the mountain region there sorry sierra

1253
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:24,960
uh nevada

1254
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:30,559
nevada mountains um they

1255
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:33,520
think they came across a group of

1256
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:34,640
sasquatch

1257
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,319
and they were having a back and forth

1258
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,079
they were kind of

1259
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:42,720
communicating verbally with them and

1260
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:43,359
then

1261
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:47,040
these things were almost in a

1262
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,960
like uh a language that sounds similar

1263
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:51,920
to like

1264
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:55,359
uh japanese yeah

1265
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:59,040
uh chatter they were saying like these

1266
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,920
things back

1267
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:01,920
i can give you a link if you want to

1268
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,200
listen to that yeah

1269
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:05,119
you might as well play it because yeah i

1270
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,640
know exactly what you're talking about i

1271
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,240
just didn't yeah i'm bad with names but

1272
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:10,160
it's like

1273
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,920
like some people even uh hypothesized

1274
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:14,880
that

1275
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,559
it's uh an attempt at speaking english

1276
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,200
but it might be something that these

1277
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:22,800
creatures have

1278
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,599
overheard and they've tried to use their

1279
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:26,640
own

1280
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:29,680
uh you know way of communicating that

1281
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:32,079
that language and they've put their spin

1282
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,280
on it you know

1283
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,760
um in a way to intimidate too because

1284
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:36,800
these are very

1285
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:38,800
aggres it's an aggressive interaction

1286
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:41,040
that they were having the men were

1287
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:44,000
in a shelter with their guns and all

1288
00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:45,440
this stuff and they were

1289
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:46,920
pretty freaked out because the

1290
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,040
vocalizations were

1291
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,200
booming their way you know very very

1292
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:53,119
loud and intimidating

1293
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,319
uh and they were doing i think david in

1294
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,240
the the recording in my right

1295
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,200
that they might have done like wood

1296
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:02,720
knocks and stuff like that

1297
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:05,760
too yeah yeah they definitely did wood

1298
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:08,000
wood knocks and they did a thing that we

1299
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,680
know as called whoops um

1300
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:14,319
so they they had quite a plethora of

1301
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:15,599
different sounds

1302
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:19,119
what's interesting is that um

1303
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,079
scott nelson who is a crypto linguist

1304
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:23,760
and a crypto linguist

1305
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,119
is trained through the military um

1306
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:30,240
actually gave uh ron's

1307
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:33,680
recordings some more legs if by that i

1308
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:36,880
mean a little more street credibility

1309
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:40,880
when he started listening to

1310
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:44,160
ron's recordings he could tell

1311
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:47,680
that he could hear what i had alluded to

1312
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:48,319
earlier

1313
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,280
which is phoneme streams in other words

1314
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,040
vowels and consonants

1315
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:55,920
which is the signature of speech but

1316
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:58,160
what he said that was interesting

1317
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:01,599
and you can hear how fast they're

1318
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:03,680
talking

1319
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:07,119
but yet still

1320
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:08,960
sounding like they're communicating with

1321
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:11,599
one another it's really interesting to

1322
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:12,800
hear these sounds

1323
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:15,920
actually slow down and you can slow

1324
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:18,800
audio down without losing pitch and when

1325
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,079
you do that

1326
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:22,720
you're hearing way more detail it's

1327
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,200
unbelievable how much detail

1328
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:27,599
is in the language but they seem to

1329
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:29,680
speak like two three times faster than

1330
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,400
we do

1331
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,720
whoa wow if you could send me a slowed

1332
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,640
down version of that david i'd love to

1333
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,000
listen to it sometimes

1334
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:38,079
i never even heard of that before until

1335
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,680
now i can do that

1336
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:41,280
yeah yeah i did it i have that

1337
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:42,960
capability so

1338
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:45,119
guys i really kind of want to i david i

1339
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:47,200
want to listen to the audio recordings

1340
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,800
that you sent us as well but now

1341
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:51,040
we're on this topic do you mind like can

1342
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:52,400
we play that and maybe

1343
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:55,119
let's unpack it afterwards or or i don't

1344
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:55,440
know

1345
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,800
like i feel like we should play for the

1346
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:59,119
list of my vocalizations are not what i

1347
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:01,280
would call um

1348
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:04,559
talking or

1349
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:07,520
most of them are screams or howls what

1350
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:08,880
typically people

1351
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:12,640
want to hear more than what is in my

1352
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,160
total library so um and these were

1353
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,480
sounds that were associated with the new

1354
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:20,160
nesting area

1355
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:23,200
that shane had found oh wow these were

1356
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,839
some recordings that were captured a

1357
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:27,119
year ago

1358
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:30,800
in february march

1359
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:33,839
after he had had his uh encounter

1360
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,359
we put a recorder out there and these 12

1361
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,760
clips are you know what the result of

1362
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:41,920
what what we had captured over a couple

1363
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,359
of months

1364
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:45,359
time right well let's get into some of

1365
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,640
these recordings yeah

1366
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:48,240
i think we actually yeah let's go let's

1367
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,760
just let's just let's just start at

1368
00:53:54,309 --> 00:53:51,520
number one because i mean they're all

1369
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:54,319
pretty amazing they sound really cool so

1370
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:55,440
we're gonna go ahead and play

1371
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,280
uh the the first audio clip right now

1372
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:01,440
um and then we can unpack it in a second

1373
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:16,710
okay so yeah distinct

1374
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,160
will i would call that a whoop would you

1375
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:19,760
call that a so that's a what

1376
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:22,319
is that that's a whoop yeah very good

1377
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:22,880
it's a

1378
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:25,920
it's resonating a little lower um

1379
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:29,119
usually a whoop is um for whatever

1380
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:30,400
reason resonates

1381
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:33,119
a little bit higher but this one was uh

1382
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:33,680
lower

1383
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:36,160
and to me me that means that this was

1384
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:37,200
possibly

1385
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:40,480
an alpha or a very large male okay um

1386
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:42,160
because and that would have been a high

1387
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:43,839
voice for him

1388
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:47,359
so to speak yeah um um

1389
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:50,640
but yeah the whoop is one of the

1390
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:53,520
sounds if you're a novice uh you want to

1391
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:55,119
pay attention to that if you hear it in

1392
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:56,319
the woods

1393
00:55:02,710 --> 00:54:59,599
yeah so are we talking like frequency

1394
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,720
range usually in your experience maybe

1395
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:04,880
we we would think that the the males are

1396
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,079
of a lower

1397
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,920
a lower frequencies and maybe females

1398
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,359
are of a specific

1399
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,880
frequency i think that's something to

1400
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:12,480
note is that there's a difference right

1401
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:12,799
like

1402
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:16,480
females are a little higher in frequency

1403
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:17,040
and

1404
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,359
most males are a little lower so there's

1405
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:21,200
that little similarity

1406
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,960
well i i here again i have to be careful

1407
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,200
there are sounds that resonate higher

1408
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,000
and there are sounds that resonate lower

1409
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:33,200
the inference i think is logical um

1410
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:36,720
that females and juveniles would have a

1411
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:37,760
higher pitched

1412
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:40,319
sounding uh resonance to their voice

1413
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:41,359
structure

1414
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:45,119
than a you know a 10-foot tall

1415
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:48,240
alpha male yeah yeah so i mean the vocal

1416
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,680
chord structure would be

1417
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,599
obviously different and you know we're

1418
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,359
you we're going to hear some sounds here

1419
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:54,880
where it's pretty obvious that

1420
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,799
this is a larger creature and we're

1421
00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:58,720
going to hear some sounds that are

1422
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,240
well that's not resonating as low

1423
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:04,400
as you would expect it to but it still

1424
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:05,680
has the same

1425
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:09,040
structure visually as um

1426
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:12,160
you know all of the uh creatures right

1427
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:14,720
in that particular sound grouping yeah

1428
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:16,480
one thing i i want to say just so people

1429
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:17,440
can have in their in

1430
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,559
in the back of their mind while they're

1431
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,119
listening to this is the

1432
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:23,920
i feel like it just sounds powerful and

1433
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,400
the

1434
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:27,760
lung capacity that would be able to emit

1435
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:28,480
this

1436
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:32,559
i just imagine maybe

1437
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,799
you'll answer this right now but do you

1438
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,960
know or maybe could estimate how far

1439
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:38,319
away these sounds are coming from

1440
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:39,119
because there is

1441
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,720
it does sound like there's an echo like

1442
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:42,400
you're in a very vast

1443
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:45,520
space right no i don't have any

1444
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:49,760
uh particular way with the way we record

1445
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:53,119
of determining uh the location to the

1446
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:54,000
recorder

1447
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:56,000
yeah the only way that we can do that is

1448
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:57,520
to get the same

1449
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,160
identical sound recorded on like three

1450
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:02,000
different recorders and then

1451
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,160
you can tell by how strong the signature

1452
00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:08,720
looks that that was closer to this

1453
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:10,839
particular recorder than that particular

1454
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:13,280
recorder now i will say

1455
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,640
if you hear something live and

1456
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:19,440
actually if you're with someone else and

1457
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:19,839
they're

1458
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:22,640
a short distance away say maybe like 20

1459
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:23,839
feet

1460
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:27,599
and you both point to the same direction

1461
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,720
where your lines of pointing would

1462
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:32,160
intersect if you were to draw an

1463
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,000
imaginary line in the direction that

1464
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:36,000
you're pointing where they intersect

1465
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,760
should be about the approximate distance

1466
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,119
of where that creature

1467
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:42,240
was oh that's super cool and that's neat

1468
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:43,040
too because uh

1469
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:45,760
i know like the military and the police

1470
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,240
uh

1471
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,480
they've started using this thing where

1472
00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:49,760
they can set it up

1473
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:52,640
and if a gunshot is fired they can tell

1474
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:54,319
immediately what direction

1475
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,799
and about how far away it was i wonder

1476
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:58,400
if there's something that could be used

1477
00:58:02,230 --> 00:57:58,720
for

1478
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,240
exact purpose right yeah

1479
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:04,799
that that technology definitely exists

1480
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:07,520
it's just not in my backpack oh yeah

1481
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,359
i yeah it sounds expensive yeah yeah

1482
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,440
we're on the same boat you know we like

1483
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:15,440
to look at ufos but we don't have you

1484
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,319
know

1485
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:18,799
multi thousand dollar night vision and

1486
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:20,960
all that stuff so

1487
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:22,960
you're totally accurate that that does

1488
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,040
exist there's uh several different

1489
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,400
technologies that that will uh you know

1490
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,640
uh locate and i think it's uh like you

1491
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:32,960
said it's through echo location uh-huh

1492
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:35,599
yeah they have you know how long does it

1493
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:36,559
take for

1494
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,079
that signal to you know come back to the

1495
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,200
the recording source yeah yeah they can

1496
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:46,079
approximate a distance cool well let's

1497
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,240
get into this second one the second one

1498
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,680
is uh it's pretty cool it's a it's a

1499
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,839
little it's a little louder and beefier

1500
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:53,119
it sounds like yeah

1501
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:55,280
maybe what i should do is uh set it up

1502
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:56,720
just a little bit

1503
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:59,760
prior to listening so what we're going

1504
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:00,799
to hear

1505
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,000
is um the same sound repeated five times

1506
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:06,400
like the the whoop was that's a little

1507
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,920
something that i do

1508
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:09,920
i found that when i played a recording

1509
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:11,200
for someone you know if

1510
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:13,040
you want to hear this and you you play

1511
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:14,480
it and then they go could you play that

1512
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:15,520
again

1513
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:18,559
so i i loop i loop the sounds

1514
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,160
um normally five times but if it

1515
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:24,640
if the clip is really long i i do maybe

1516
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:25,680
three times or

1517
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:29,599
twice but at least i repeat it so that

1518
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,720
your mind can kind of catch up with

1519
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,319
to what you're hearing because it seems

1520
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:36,160
like on about the third time you hear

1521
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:36,880
the sound

1522
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:39,040
you start to zero in on what it is that

1523
00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:40,160
you're actually hearing

1524
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:43,280
yeah but yeah here here

1525
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,640
in this next clip is what i call a power

1526
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,549
in the biz if you will

1527
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:54,960
researchers are aware of percussive

1528
01:00:00,069 --> 00:59:56,000
sounds

1529
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:00,079
that seem to happen in the woods that um

1530
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:04,880
can be associated uh with a a sasquatch

1531
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:07,680
um and it's called wood knocking that

1532
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,160
was

1533
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:10,720
the term that most people would hear but

1534
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,839
then

1535
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:13,599
people started realizing you know we're

1536
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:17,119
hearing knocking sounds in the woods

1537
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:19,119
but you were hearing the same sound and

1538
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:21,839
it how could they possibly be making

1539
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,920
the same sound repetitively over and

1540
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:25,280
over again

1541
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:28,799
um so we're not quite sure if

1542
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:31,440
all the percussive sounds are done by

1543
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:32,720
wood on wood

1544
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:36,079
or rock on wood or uh what i call

1545
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:39,920
a mouth pop um these creatures

1546
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:42,960
uh have huge body cavities

1547
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:45,760
and they can make some thunderous sounds

1548
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,319
just by

1549
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:48,559
a tongue click i don't know if you've

1550
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:49,359
heard people

1551
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:51,440
do tongue clicks really loud clicks

1552
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:53,680
before popping sounds

1553
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:57,119
but i can only imagine how loud that

1554
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,200
would be if a sasquatch were to

1555
01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:01,839
attempt to do that so yeah we're we're

1556
01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:03,839
not always certain that it's wood on

1557
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:04,640
wood

1558
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:08,160
percussive

1559
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:11,359
sounds but in this particular case the

1560
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:14,319
the sound is so thunderous uh it's a

1561
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:16,720
category i call power strike

1562
01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:20,480
and i i think it's like a rock a huge

1563
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:25,280
rock on a very hard wood surface

1564
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:28,400
oh yes i know there's a kiss joke in

1565
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:29,440
there somewhere

1566
01:01:50,829 --> 01:01:34,559
gene the tongue click

1567
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:51,990
check

1568
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:54,319
that was that was six six times or did i

1569
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:55,119
count right or

1570
01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:58,000
i think it was five five and it man it

1571
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:00,640
sounds to me like a roar it's like a

1572
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,319
like but i don't know maybe it's just my

1573
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:06,960
interpretation of uh yeah maybe explain

1574
01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,440
why

1575
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:10,079
it you you maybe believe that it's or or

1576
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:11,520
can prove that uh

1577
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:13,359
or speculation it's this it's a

1578
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:14,880
signature okay

1579
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:18,480
it's it's the visual signature um

1580
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:21,599
i i can see a a barking signature

1581
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:24,640
is different than than this this power

1582
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:26,000
strike signature

1583
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:28,880
and i'd have to physically show you but

1584
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,280
yeah

1585
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:31,680
so so like you can take word for it but

1586
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:32,400
it's a

1587
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:36,160
think that like a

1588
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:38,160
a click or something a pop would would

1589
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:39,920
have no pre

1590
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:42,319
sound it would just boom sound wave

1591
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:43,520
let's go

1592
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:46,400
uh yeah it's a very sharp definite line

1593
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,200
but

1594
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,839
what you're hearing is a tremendous

1595
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:51,119
amount of echo

1596
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:53,920
and that's kind of obscuring the

1597
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:55,119
sharpness of it

1598
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:57,839
right i i did write down in my notes

1599
01:03:02,549 --> 01:02:59,920
like things to ask and i only have two

1600
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:02,559
and this one was the you mentioned echo

1601
01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:03,280
uh

1602
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:06,319
yeah so it this there's no echo or

1603
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:08,400
reverb added in post or anything like

1604
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:09,760
that

1605
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:13,599
i'm i do add some reverb

1606
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:17,119
um in post editing but that's

1607
01:03:23,190 --> 01:03:20,400
uh usually to um i have found that

1608
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:23,200
adding just a slight amount of reverb

1609
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:27,359
will uh soften or clean up

1610
01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:30,640
noise okay so it's kind of oh

1611
01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:32,559
it's not to the point where you go oh my

1612
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:34,079
god he's got this

1613
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:37,039
his reverb all the way cranked up it's a

1614
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:38,480
very mild filter

1615
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:41,359
that that seems to eliminate some of the

1616
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:42,400
harshness

1617
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:45,440
uh in the upper end of uh an audio

1618
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:46,240
recording

1619
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,680
kind of smooth to smooth it out a little

1620
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:49,839
bit yeah yeah yeah

1621
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:52,880
but not to the point where it um adds

1622
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:56,960
echo to what was already there right

1623
01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:58,720
okay cool yeah yeah that's awesome well

1624
01:04:02,309 --> 01:04:00,400
that answers your your question yeah

1625
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:02,319
there you go yeah that's perfect there

1626
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:03,839
we go oh man

1627
01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:05,680
uh before we go to the next one i was

1628
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:07,280
gonna i mean uh

1629
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:10,400
i know uh yeah so darcy have you in your

1630
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:13,359
you're filming did you uh hearing this

1631
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:14,640
stuff like

1632
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:17,200
did you ever experience anything like

1633
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:17,680
this

1634
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:19,440
did you did you all do you also have

1635
01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:21,280
some audio as well that kind of sounds

1636
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:23,280
similar to this

1637
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:28,240
i have never seen a bigfoot or

1638
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:31,280
heard vocalizations to be honest i i can

1639
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:32,160
only go on

1640
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:35,039
the information that i've collected from

1641
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:36,640
the researchers you know

1642
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:40,079
yeah and uh i think

1643
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:43,599
um much like the ufo topic

1644
01:04:47,910 --> 01:04:45,599
there's been thousands of people that

1645
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:47,920
have had sightings and

1646
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:51,119
experiences regarding these creatures

1647
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:54,480
so um i start to believe that

1648
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:58,799
there must be something to that and uh

1649
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:01,440
i i really like the vocalizations i like

1650
01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:04,319
the wood knocks the rock clocks it shows

1651
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:07,359
you know an intelligent creature that's

1652
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:10,559
using tools like a primate would

1653
01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:13,760
um and just logically

1654
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:15,599
it draws me to the conclusion that

1655
01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:23,029
but uh you know again there's just been

1656
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:24,000
if you look

1657
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:27,200
at the library

1658
01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:30,000
that david has it's massive it's not

1659
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:31,599
just like

1660
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:34,799
10 or 20 sound bites it's like hundreds

1661
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:37,359
you know from across north america he

1662
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:38,160
was showing me

1663
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:40,640
some that are from the forests of north

1664
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:41,920
carolina

1665
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:44,720
and uh you know there's stuff that come

1666
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:45,839
from virginia

1667
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:47,680
and and all that stuff you know so it's

1668
01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:50,640
like all across the united states

1669
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:53,760
i'm sure he has some from canada but

1670
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:57,520
um it's it's really credible when you

1671
01:06:01,829 --> 01:05:58,160
have

1672
01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:01,839
that amount of data uh backed up

1673
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:04,559
by people even having sightings right

1674
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:05,599
and i think

1675
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:09,200
the north north north carolina

1676
01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:12,640
sounds that he's recorded the

1677
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:16,640
lady that submitted them to him has also

1678
01:06:21,829 --> 01:06:19,760
had eyewitness accounts from

1679
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:21,839
the supposed creatures making the the

1680
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:23,200
noise or creature

1681
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:26,319
so that's that's pretty cool too

1682
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:28,160
when you have that and then the sounds

1683
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:29,440
right right

1684
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:32,880
man yeah thank you that's it's good to

1685
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,400
while we listen to it to get a

1686
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:35,839
perspective because

1687
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:38,319
we can be drawn in and and think like

1688
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:39,440
man

1689
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:41,200
some people are going to be 50 50 like

1690
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:43,200
oh i don't believe it oh yes okay this

1691
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:44,880
is this is possible sometimes you know

1692
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,160
in the gray area

1693
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:48,640
so i don't know at any time uh yeah

1694
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:50,079
please chime in if you have

1695
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:53,520
any like uh speculation or or ideas of

1696
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:55,520
of why somebody would would try to

1697
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:56,640
disprove this

1698
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:59,280
uh david like you said you've you've

1699
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:00,319
looked at these

1700
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,720
these audio signatures and compared them

1701
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:04,400
to existing ones that are that are

1702
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:05,200
animals

1703
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,720
and you know some people might hear that

1704
01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:08,400
noise and say that sounds like a dog

1705
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:09,680
barking but

1706
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:12,160
in your in your research it it's it's

1707
01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:14,160
obviously stuck out to you

1708
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,799
right yeah no i've um looked at uh

1709
01:07:23,270 --> 01:07:21,119
hundreds of thousands it seems like dog

1710
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,280
barks and dog signatures so

1711
01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:25,200
it's one of those things where you don't

1712
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,960
even have to have the sound on you can

1713
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:29,039
go that's a dog

1714
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:31,920
so yeah yeah yeah that's like the the

1715
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,200
sign of a true like

1716
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:35,520
i mean uh you know tank that did our

1717
01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:36,400
album

1718
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:38,079
oh yeah he was he was saying like you

1719
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:39,599
don't even like listen to it i just look

1720
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,200
at the sound the sound signature

1721
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:43,119
and i just that's how i edit there you

1722
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:44,400
go i get there you go

1723
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:47,839
yeah but uh yeah see sound is not

1724
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:52,400
um it's actually it trains your ear

1725
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,480
um to uh list i mean the the the two are

1726
01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:58,319
i've noticed over the 10 years that i've

1727
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,039
been working with uh the spectrograms

1728
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:04,160
that um your ear

1729
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:06,319
almost anticipates what the sound is

1730
01:08:11,109 --> 01:08:07,520
going to be

1731
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:11,119
um just by the visual cues so

1732
01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:14,640
uh it's it

1733
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:17,120
looking at it and hearing it makes it

1734
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,719
that much more dynamic

1735
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,440
right i i did this thing when i was

1736
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:22,880
listening to your your uh

1737
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:25,279
these recordings and i tried to

1738
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,239
visualize

1739
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,400
um you know just because that was the

1740
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:30,560
reference was was a sasquatch or that's

1741
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,040
what

1742
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:33,199
you know mind frame i was in i was

1743
01:08:38,309 --> 01:08:35,359
trying to visualize this next one

1744
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:38,319
as a sasquatch and i just i don't know i

1745
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:39,120
i think it's

1746
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,600
this sound coming from such a large

1747
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:45,120
creature i believe i think it's

1748
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:46,880
the next one is it the high-pitched one

1749
01:08:51,870 --> 01:08:48,480
yeah i think so

1750
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,880
and how long the the this is the the

1751
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:53,040
vocalization

1752
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:55,520
right which one number three number

1753
01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:56,560
three

1754
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:01,040
shorter it's almost

1755
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:04,480
as there is a a

1756
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:07,520
sound that i'm tracking all across north

1757
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:08,319
america

1758
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:09,839
and it almost sounds like somebody

1759
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:12,400
saying hey now this isn't a really good

1760
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:14,319
representation of it

1761
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:18,480
um because of uh again the echo

1762
01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:22,080
but i i i can hear it and see it there's

1763
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:25,520
it part of the um it just sounds like

1764
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:26,560
there's something

1765
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,600
saying hey so you you may be able to

1766
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:31,920
hear it you may not be able to hear it

1767
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:34,719
but it is it's a shorter vocalization i

1768
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:35,839
think the

1769
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:38,880
uh the one that you're uh referring to

1770
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:40,960
is that is the fourth one

1771
01:09:43,700 --> 01:09:43,440
okay okay yeah yeah that might be the

1772
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:43,710
one

1773
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:44,960
[Music]

1774
01:10:05,830 --> 01:09:47,600
let's do number three uh okay and check

1775
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:07,590
so this is is this the one you were

1776
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:08,880
saying that that's a hay

1777
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,430
i think you're you're muted dave

1778
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:21,270
is he i'm sorry you're getting here

1779
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:23,440
there you go

1780
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:26,239
talking away yeah i'm saying i think

1781
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:26,560
it's

1782
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:28,159
probably going to be a stretch for

1783
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:30,000
people to hear the hay

1784
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,600
i'm telling you that i'm pretty sure

1785
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:33,120
it's there yeah

1786
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:36,719
because of what i see visually so

1787
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:40,080
uh but anyway it's it's a hay

1788
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,320
is a um sound that i am tracking

1789
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:46,719
it's not just here in the northwest it's

1790
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:47,600
all over

1791
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,040
yeah oh wow yeah did you guys did were

1792
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:52,880
you guys uh privy to that uh

1793
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:55,600
yanny and what was it it was uh there

1794
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:57,440
was some kind of audio phenomenon that

1795
01:11:02,390 --> 01:10:59,360
everybody was hearing this audio

1796
01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:02,400
that sounded like like yanny or

1797
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:04,159
something else it was like two words

1798
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:04,800
that were

1799
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,480
interchangeable just depending on i

1800
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:09,040
remember that yeah

1801
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:12,239
do you have you heard the term paradolia

1802
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:14,800
uh no but i'm i'm i could infer what

1803
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:15,600
that

1804
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:19,520
with

1805
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:22,560
visual it's like looking at clouds and

1806
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:24,080
you see a face

1807
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:27,120
because because what your eyes do

1808
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:30,560
is they see but your mind interprets

1809
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,840
and your mind has this a unique ability

1810
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:35,760
to want to see something it normally

1811
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:37,520
sees

1812
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:40,960
so it can make faces

1813
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:45,760
out of clouds you can and so

1814
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:48,000
now if you extrapolate that there's a

1815
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:49,040
thing that is

1816
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,480
called um audioperidolia

1817
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:54,880
where your ears hear something but your

1818
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:55,760
mind says

1819
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:59,040
i hear this yeah and so that's once you

1820
01:12:02,550 --> 01:11:59,760
say

1821
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:02,560
that's what you hear you can't unhear it

1822
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:02,880
yeah

1823
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:06,000
so i just

1824
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:09,280
it's the yanny or laurel uh if you guys

1825
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:10,000
are interested

1826
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:11,440
it's called yanny yeah so that's a

1827
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:13,600
perfect example of audio

1828
01:12:20,310 --> 01:12:17,040
paradolia yes interesting yes yeah man

1829
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:20,320
that's great man uh

1830
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,880
yeah i kind of want to maybe do like two

1831
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:24,800
more like is there any is there like

1832
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:27,760
two more that that just really stick out

1833
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:29,840
to i know that uh we had written down a

1834
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:31,199
few but like we kept going through

1835
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:32,159
number four was

1836
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:34,080
interesting to me because of the change

1837
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:35,600
in the pitches that was

1838
01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:38,880
incredible yeah this is an important uh

1839
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:42,080
signature this is one that is being

1840
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:44,719
tracked again all over north america

1841
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:46,800
it is not just a phenomenon that is

1842
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,199
recorded in the northwest

1843
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,520
i've had recorded this in numerous

1844
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:53,520
locations in the northwest

1845
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:57,600
but it's all over the country and it has

1846
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:01,040
a sustaining note to it you know it's

1847
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:02,480
not just saying something

1848
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,320
it almost sounds like it's singing

1849
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:06,080
something yeah that's what i thought i

1850
01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:07,840
thought i was like dude sounds like

1851
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:09,520
they're singing or maybe they had a baby

1852
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,520
and it's like uh you know lullabies

1853
01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:13,920
bigfoot lullabies dude yeah or like if

1854
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,679
it's a birthing ceremony there would be

1855
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:17,040
some kind of

1856
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:20,640
song that goes along with it oh

1857
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:24,000
man we could speculate all night yeah

1858
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:26,239
let's get into this fourth clip because

1859
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,120
this is

1860
01:13:30,830 --> 01:13:29,760
like this blew my mind even my wife was

1861
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:30,840
like

1862
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,800
wow we sat down and we listened to it

1863
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:36,320
together last night and

1864
01:14:04,870 --> 01:13:38,480
she was pretty blown away about it let's

1865
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:07,110
so that again that was that was a loop

1866
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:08,080
right david

1867
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:12,159
yes that was a a short singing signature

1868
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:15,520
looped five times those notes i'm sure

1869
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:16,880
there's somebody out there that has

1870
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:17,679
perfect pitch

1871
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:20,320
and can tell us what notes those are but

1872
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:22,159
i've personally never heard a bird

1873
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:24,880
sing those it sounds like it sounds like

1874
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:25,280
a

1875
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:50,560
cursor over

1876
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:54,159
a certain spot it will tell me what that

1877
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:57,520
note is oh cool and so if i scroll it up

1878
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,080
and down

1879
01:15:01,990 --> 01:15:00,239
on that particular sound i can tell you

1880
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:02,000
what the range is from

1881
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:05,360
you know from a c to a g or you know

1882
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:08,960
yeah so yeah i could i could tell you

1883
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:09,520
that

1884
01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:14,560
one kind of blows my mind the uh

1885
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:17,520
just it's uh it's got a lot of

1886
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:19,679
personality behind it you know

1887
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:22,560
it almost like humanizes itself by by

1888
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:23,199
like

1889
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:24,800
singing you know it's something that's

1890
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,560
relatable to us you know

1891
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:28,239
it's something that's uh you can't be

1892
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:29,840
like oh that was a wolf

1893
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:32,320
or that was a bark or you know that was

1894
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:33,360
an owl

1895
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:36,159
or something it's very distinct or it

1896
01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:37,040
could be it

1897
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:40,080
could be three different uh

1898
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:50,070
yeah sasquatch

1899
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:52,719
i'm joining the sasquatch squatch choir

1900
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:53,520
dude yes

1901
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:56,640
dude oh dude that's awesome

1902
01:16:01,350 --> 01:16:00,080
yeah man so that yeah yeah that was

1903
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:01,360
i think that might be one of my

1904
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:02,560
favorites it sounds like you know when

1905
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:04,719
you sit and sent these audio files to me

1906
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:06,000
and i and i went through and i

1907
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:08,640
listened to all of them it was like

1908
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:10,560
every scary movie that you see that

1909
01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:12,320
takes place in the woods it's like they

1910
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:15,040
got their audio from like bigfoot sounds

1911
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:18,480
[Laughter]

1912
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:21,679
seems like it very very

1913
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:25,199
interesting indeed man uh that the the

1914
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:25,679
uh

1915
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:29,360
just the i

1916
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:32,719
being if i was in the woods and you

1917
01:16:37,270 --> 01:16:35,520
you hear that you know automatically

1918
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:37,280
being in the woods if you're by yourself

1919
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,159
or whatever you

1920
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:40,560
you know at night time things are always

1921
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:42,239
depicted as getting a little bit

1922
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:45,040
spooky and this and that but so i would

1923
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:45,600
assume

1924
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:48,080
are all of these i mean these are noises

1925
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:48,800
that happen

1926
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:51,280
day and night so that kind of brings me

1927
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:52,640
to this question of like

1928
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:55,920
bigfoot being like is he nocturnal or is

1929
01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:56,239
he

1930
01:17:03,189 --> 01:16:59,360
you know daytime type thing well

1931
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:03,199
they're both um i mean we have sightings

1932
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:06,159
at night in sightings during the day so

1933
01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:06,960
um

1934
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:10,080
now what the the the question that most

1935
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,520
people have is

1936
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:14,480
what are their nocturnal abilities how

1937
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:16,000
and it seems like they have

1938
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:18,800
an unusual capability of seeing very

1939
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:19,360
well

1940
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:22,560
in the dark much better than we can

1941
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:25,199
and there's lots of different reasons

1942
01:17:28,630 --> 01:17:25,840
why

1943
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:28,640
that can be but they they certainly seem

1944
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:29,360
to have

1945
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:32,719
a much better ability to see in the dark

1946
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:33,760
than we do

1947
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:36,159
wow do i'm not even sure about this do

1948
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:36,880
other uh

1949
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:39,360
primates have the ability to see well at

1950
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,440
night time

1951
01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:43,520
you know i'm not a specialist in that

1952
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:44,719
category so i

1953
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:46,800
really can't answer that question no

1954
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:48,560
worries that's that's a quick google

1955
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:51,520
that we can do on our own

1956
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:55,040
do monkeys or do primates see like cats

1957
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:57,440
yeah i don't know well that's a good

1958
01:18:02,790 --> 01:17:58,320
google

1959
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:02,800
let's move on to another one is there it

1960
01:18:14,110 --> 01:18:10,149
well i like them all that's why i picked

1961
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:15,910
[Applause]

1962
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:18,400
what was this there was one that was

1963
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:19,600
pretty interesting

1964
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:21,280
yeah darcy do you have one that you like

1965
01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:22,640
the the best what do you what do you

1966
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:27,750
um i like the baboon bark

1967
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,640
we cover that in the documentary um

1968
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:32,159
because

1969
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:35,520
it has a distinct sort of whoop and

1970
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:40,000
and bark sort of distinction to it

1971
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:43,199
um and we compare that to a baboon

1972
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:46,400
that's vocalizing that same

1973
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,320
vocalization and uh yeah i think it's

1974
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:52,239
it it seems like did you send that to

1975
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:53,600
the the guys

1976
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:56,400
i sent them uh all of the recordings

1977
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,120
from the

1978
01:19:00,470 --> 01:18:59,440
new nest site because i i thought shane

1979
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:00,480
was going to be with us

1980
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:03,520
and yeah i was asking for new stuff so i

1981
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:04,159
thank you for

1982
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:06,159
for sending me some stuff you're you're

1983
01:19:11,189 --> 01:19:08,000
currently working on it that's awesome

1984
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:11,199
yep yeah no this is new yeah this

1985
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,880
this uh this number eight was really

1986
01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:16,400
interesting to me as well

1987
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:18,960
i really like the number eight and that

1988
01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:21,199
kind of gave me that uh

1989
01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:24,800
you know that yeah the headless horseman

1990
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:25,280
vibe

1991
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:28,239
like it was really cool the way yeah

1992
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:30,560
there there seems to be some separation

1993
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:31,520
between these

1994
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:34,640
two vocalizers well and well i say two

1995
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:36,400
vocalizers i'm assuming

1996
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:39,360
that it's too i don't believe it to be

1997
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,000
the same

1998
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,719
creature there seems to be some distance

1999
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:43,920
between the two

2000
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,440
so when you're doing the visual audio

2001
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:49,440
is that something that you can pick up

2002
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,280
the difference like if there's

2003
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:53,040
multiple you can find different

2004
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:54,320
signatures

2005
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:57,440
yeah the the closer or usually

2006
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:00,560
the louder the signature is

2007
01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:04,000
it changes color to to the and i

2008
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:07,120
and i can see the color shifting

2009
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:09,760
to to tell me that it that's all you

2010
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:10,320
know

2011
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:12,320
not only can i hear it's louder but i

2012
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,000
can see it's louder

2013
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:17,280
and then the same in reverse i can see

2014
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:19,360
that you know the signature just isn't

2015
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:21,120
quite as strong

2016
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,600
as the other one so that to me tells me

2017
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:25,199
that they weren't standing beside each

2018
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:26,880
other screaming at one another

2019
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:29,440
yeah but they were man that sounds like

2020
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,440
an incredible program like whoever made

2021
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:33,520
that program was definitely on acid and

2022
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:35,120
they were like i gotta figure out

2023
01:20:41,189 --> 01:20:38,719
how i can see the music all the time

2024
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:41,199
you know that sounds like blue man it

2025
01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:44,239
sounds like the color blue

2026
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:46,880
yes let's uh let's listen to this number

2027
01:21:12,830 --> 01:20:47,760
eight clip

2028
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:26,870
oh

2029
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:46,950
dude that just gave me chills man if i'm

2030
01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:49,679
out in the woods if i am out in the

2031
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:51,280
woods

2032
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:54,800
even with like 10 people drop everything

2033
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:55,600
and run

2034
01:22:02,550 --> 01:21:58,800
oh my god

2035
01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:02,560
where would you go like uh i mean

2036
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:04,480
yeah well i can tell you what happened

2037
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:06,880
to me when i was 11 years old and i was

2038
01:22:10,229 --> 01:22:09,360
30 feet from it when it did that please

2039
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,239
do please

2040
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:12,719
please do tell i fell to the ground i

2041
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:18,870
your brain said no decisions just you're

2042
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:19,199
good

2043
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:24,320
all right play this the safety mate

2044
01:22:31,750 --> 01:22:28,239
there was um something that screamed

2045
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:31,760
maybe 10 to 12 seconds long

2046
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,239
and i described it to my parents uh

2047
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:36,320
after i had had the experience

2048
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:38,320
it sounded like a lion roaring in an

2049
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:39,679
elephant trumpeting

2050
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:42,880
at the same time it was a like a high

2051
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:45,360
and a low component to the scream

2052
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,400
that um just had never heard anything

2053
01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:50,400
like that before

2054
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:52,880
and this is at a young age like you have

2055
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:55,679
you ever heard of sasquatch before that

2056
01:23:01,189 --> 01:22:59,280
i actually no and the the interesting

2057
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:01,199
thing is after i had that experience the

2058
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:03,600
following week we had a library class i

2059
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:05,120
was like in sixth grade

2060
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:08,639
i think at the time and uh

2061
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:11,679
we would uh go to the

2062
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:13,840
our library in the school and then the

2063
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:15,840
librarian

2064
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:18,480
she wanted to know what interested us so

2065
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,159
that she could point us to

2066
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:22,239
you know what we should be reading

2067
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:23,520
because she thought

2068
01:23:27,430 --> 01:23:25,920
if she knew what our interests were we

2069
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:27,440
we might actually

2070
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:29,280
learn how to read and use the library to

2071
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:30,880
find stuff so

2072
01:23:37,910 --> 01:23:34,320
um we'd have this show-and-tell time

2073
01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:37,920
you know and the teacher would kind of

2074
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:41,199
find out what was our interest by doing

2075
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:42,080
that

2076
01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:46,000
interesting happen

2077
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,960
over the weekend and my hands shot up

2078
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:50,480
like a rocket and

2079
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:54,159
she uh let me explain my experience

2080
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:56,239
i didn't explain the whole story but um

2081
01:24:01,030 --> 01:23:57,760
the gist of it was that i

2082
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:01,040
heard the sound and so

2083
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,400
uh later on after everybody's reading

2084
01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:06,320
their books i feel a tap on my shoulder

2085
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:07,199
david

2086
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:08,560
come here i want to talk to you for a

2087
01:24:13,189 --> 01:24:10,239
second so

2088
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:13,199
she took me away from the class and

2089
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:13,760
started

2090
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:16,560
asking me questions about my experience

2091
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:16,960
like

2092
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:21,040
did i see what made this vocalization

2093
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:23,920
and you know she wanted to know as much

2094
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:25,199
detail about it as

2095
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:28,320
as she could and it when she was all

2096
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,639
done

2097
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:30,800
asking me questions she said well i have

2098
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:32,080
an adult book

2099
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:34,880
that you may be able to find some

2100
01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:36,239
answers in

2101
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:39,600
and the name of the book was abominable

2102
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:42,880
abominable snowman legend come to life

2103
01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:45,920
which was written by ivan t sanderson

2104
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:48,159
and if that name doesn't ring a bell he

2105
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:50,320
wrote the article in the ark

2106
01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:53,840
argosy magazine about roger patterson

2107
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:54,400
and bob

2108
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:57,520
gimlin filming uh patty

2109
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:00,960
so he he wrote that argosy article

2110
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:04,880
but he was a well-known uh biologist

2111
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:08,719
and traveled the world and actually um

2112
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:11,600
was on the same theme that darcy is on

2113
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:12,000
with

2114
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:15,600
his um sasquatch and wild men

2115
01:25:20,070 --> 01:25:18,560
uh going all over the world he he he

2116
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:20,080
thought that these creatures were on

2117
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:22,239
all continents with the exception of

2118
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,679
antarctica

2119
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:25,520
yeah darcy tell us a little bit about

2120
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:27,360
about that those that haven't seen the

2121
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:30,719
film like maybe just a synopsis

2122
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:33,840
sure um so you know we were talking

2123
01:25:37,990 --> 01:25:34,719
about

2124
01:25:40,629 --> 01:25:38,000
um sasquatch bigfoot

2125
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:40,639
this would be the same sort of creature

2126
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:41,520
based on

2127
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,639
accounts that we've had but you know in

2128
01:25:50,229 --> 01:25:46,960
different parts of north america

2129
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:50,239
um there's other wild men

2130
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,880
or relic hominids that have been

2131
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,239
described

2132
01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:57,120
in different parts of the world so in

2133
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:57,679
russia

2134
01:26:01,430 --> 01:26:00,080
they have uh two name they have three

2135
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:01,440
names really well

2136
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:04,880
two names let's go two so they have yeti

2137
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:08,480
but um the most famous yeti description

2138
01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:10,960
comes from the himalayas people call

2139
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:12,159
that yeti

2140
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,920
more of a gorilla type thing because

2141
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:15,440
it's its feet

2142
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:18,480
seems to have a divergent big toe and it

2143
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:19,360
looks

2144
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:22,320
more like a hand print rather than a

2145
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:22,719
foot

2146
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:26,400
print yeah um and then

2147
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:29,520
the russian yeti they call it yeti but

2148
01:26:34,709 --> 01:26:32,880
it it's fits the exact same description

2149
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:34,719
as bigfoot you know has

2150
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:37,199
kind of a cone-shaped head can be

2151
01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:38,239
anywhere between

2152
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,639
eight eight feet to ten feet tall

2153
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:44,719
they also have another creature which is

2154
01:26:50,149 --> 01:26:46,159
called the almisty

2155
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:50,159
the russian almisty and the almas

2156
01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:52,320
have been described as being a shorter

2157
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:54,320
version of bigfoot

2158
01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:57,440
still considered like a wild man

2159
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:59,840
but by all accounts people relate it to

2160
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:01,120
a neanderthal

2161
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:08,000
head to toe in fur and has

2162
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:11,199
a face more human looking like

2163
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:14,639
but like primitive you know

2164
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:17,040
the dev has been seen in parts of

2165
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:18,480
eastern europe

2166
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:21,679
ukraine poland this type of area

2167
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:25,280
in their tatra mountains and

2168
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:28,159
this is by all accounts something that

2169
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:31,520
looks like bigfoot or sasquatch

2170
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:34,639
and you know last but not least

2171
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:37,840
is the yaren in china and yaren

2172
01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:41,520
translates exactly to wild man

2173
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:45,199
in chinese uh the yaren has been written

2174
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:46,239
about and

2175
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:49,120
passed down through oral tradition in

2176
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:49,760
china

2177
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:53,360
for thousands of years even going back

2178
01:27:57,910 --> 01:27:54,320
to the

2179
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:57,920
uh jing dynasty era

2180
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,199
when there was wars going on between

2181
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:03,360
warlords there's a tale that you can

2182
01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:05,120
read about in the new york times when

2183
01:28:12,830 --> 01:28:07,760
the new york times covered the yaren

2184
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:12,840
recently um there was a

2185
01:28:19,990 --> 01:28:16,639
zing uh a jing dynasty

2186
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:20,000
um warlord that was gifted a urine that

2187
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,360
was captured in the

2188
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:23,920
shenangia national rainforest and the

2189
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:26,159
shenandoah national rainforest is a

2190
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:30,000
very similar climate to where we find

2191
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:32,320
credible sasquatch and bigfoot reports

2192
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:33,760
across north america

2193
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:37,520
you know sierras clinal rain forest

2194
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:40,080
you know temperate trees that type of

2195
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:41,040
thing

2196
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:44,159
and we still get yaren reports

2197
01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:52,950
museum set up in that area where they

2198
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:53,440
give

2199
01:29:00,070 --> 01:28:56,719
the full history of reports

2200
01:29:01,990 --> 01:29:00,080
and they embrace it being a

2201
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,000
real live creature that lives in that

2202
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:04,320
forest they have statues

2203
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:07,280
as you enter the park um that are

2204
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:10,960
dedicated to it and it looks like a

2205
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:14,159
ape-like uh

2206
01:29:17,510 --> 01:29:16,960
sort of chinese man it has like sort of

2207
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,520
more

2208
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,560
chinese looking features

2209
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:22,639
so the working theory there just like

2210
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:24,000
humans if these

2211
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,560
things do exist around the world and

2212
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:27,600
have been cited

2213
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:30,080
around the world in scarce numbers

2214
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:31,840
living in wilderness

2215
01:29:38,550 --> 01:29:35,120
they would also have um

2216
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,560
local adaptations you know a white guy

2217
01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:40,719
looks different from a african a

2218
01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:42,320
sub-saharan has

2219
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:44,800
you know black skin and different facial

2220
01:29:48,149 --> 01:29:45,520
features

2221
01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:48,159
different nose different lips and then

2222
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:49,440
you go to china they have

2223
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:50,800
different eyes they don't have a

2224
01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:52,880
caucasian eye fold and so

2225
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:57,280
there may be evidence of that sort of

2226
01:30:02,629 --> 01:29:59,600
local adaptation for these types of

2227
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,189
and interestingly enough in the research

2228
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:06,960
that i did

2229
01:30:10,149 --> 01:30:09,440
when i came across shane corson and

2230
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:10,159
david

2231
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:16,080
you know they were presenting at these

2232
01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:17,520
conferences

2233
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:20,560
uh that i was going to on

2234
01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:23,280
the finding of these nests in the

2235
01:30:26,470 --> 01:30:25,199
olympic national rainforest in

2236
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:26,480
washington

2237
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:30,639
and across the pond in china

2238
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:34,560
the yaren sightings have yielded also

2239
01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:37,679
nest sites and in the documentary we so

2240
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:40,960
we show the um nest

2241
01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:44,400
apparent grounds that the uh researchers

2242
01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:45,840
over there have come across

2243
01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:48,560
and they found hair samples which

2244
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:49,280
they've also

2245
01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:52,239
sent off to do genetic testing at labs

2246
01:30:55,750 --> 01:30:52,960
which

2247
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:55,760
dr meldrum and the olympic project guys

2248
01:31:00,070 --> 01:30:56,560
also did

2249
01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:00,080
and found so we see this

2250
01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:02,639
synchronicity in data that's very

2251
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:03,840
interesting

2252
01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:07,040
um and behavior

2253
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:09,760
that's very similar and characteristics

2254
01:31:13,030 --> 01:31:12,080
of visual characteristics that people

2255
01:31:15,990 --> 01:31:13,040
account for

2256
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:16,000
in the two different parts of the world

2257
01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:17,440
many different parts of the world for

2258
01:31:22,629 --> 01:31:19,520
that matter

2259
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:22,639
looks like a upright primate acts like

2260
01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:23,440
an upright

2261
01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:28,320
primate and apparently builds nests

2262
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:31,600
so we know primates do this gorillas

2263
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:32,480
make a new nest

2264
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:37,199
every night um and chimpanzees

2265
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:40,480
often make some sort of

2266
01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:44,560
nesting uh sleeping area when they're

2267
01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:48,080
living in a tribe as well so

2268
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:51,520
very possible this this exists and that

2269
01:31:58,870 --> 01:31:55,360
they are related if it's an ancient

2270
01:32:02,229 --> 01:31:58,880
hominid we are a ancient hominid we

2271
01:32:03,990 --> 01:32:02,239
we started showing up 250 000 years ago

2272
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:04,000
homo sapiens

2273
01:32:09,950 --> 01:32:07,360
um and the last

2274
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:09,960
fossil that we found for let's say

2275
01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:12,000
gigantopithecus which some people

2276
01:32:16,390 --> 01:32:14,560
say could be related to bigfoot or

2277
01:32:18,629 --> 01:32:16,400
sasquatch

2278
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:18,639
those showed up a hundred thousand and

2279
01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:20,480
hundred fifty thousand and two hundred

2280
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:21,679
thousand years ago

2281
01:32:27,830 --> 01:32:25,520
so that means that at the same time

2282
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:27,840
that these creatures were walking the

2283
01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:29,760
planet we were

2284
01:32:35,189 --> 01:32:32,800
and we made it may have had interactions

2285
01:32:39,189 --> 01:32:35,199
throughout history with them

2286
01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:39,199
um and i would say

2287
01:32:42,950 --> 01:32:40,960
it's very possible that we're still

2288
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:42,960
having those interactions

2289
01:32:46,629 --> 01:32:45,040
we've discounted them and and written

2290
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:46,639
them off as

2291
01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:50,000
extinct but that's not

2292
01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:53,520
doing us any uh service because

2293
01:32:57,430 --> 01:32:56,560
it seems like we're still getting lots

2294
01:33:01,110 --> 01:32:57,440
of reports

2295
01:33:02,870 --> 01:33:01,120
of wild men relic hominids possibly

2296
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:02,880
existing in the landscapes around the

2297
01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:05,040
world today

2298
01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:07,040
yeah that's pretty interesting uh you

2299
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:09,120
know it's it's i mean it's not super

2300
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:10,320
often but

2301
01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:12,960
it's pretty often i'll see an article or

2302
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:13,679
something pop

2303
01:33:18,870 --> 01:33:16,719
up and say uh discovery of animal

2304
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:18,880
thought to be extinct you know there was

2305
01:33:22,229 --> 01:33:20,480
a species of whale that just popped

2306
01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:22,239
yeah we're constantly like finding these

2307
01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:24,080
animals that we just thought were

2308
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:24,960
extinct

2309
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:27,120
well you know they're not there's just

2310
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:28,239
not a lot of them

2311
01:33:32,070 --> 01:33:30,000
and if especially like if you're in the

2312
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:32,080
ocean like give me a break dude yeah i

2313
01:33:35,189 --> 01:33:33,120
mean you know

2314
01:33:37,189 --> 01:33:35,199
uh same thing with these uh with these

2315
01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:37,199
big uh uh

2316
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:40,080
huge forests yeah no you're not just

2317
01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:42,000
you're not just like oh there it is

2318
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:44,159
that's gonna take some searching you

2319
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:45,199
know yeah

2320
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:47,440
this thing is huge but it might as well

2321
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:48,560
the forest is bigger

2322
01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:50,320
yeah the forest might as well be an

2323
01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:52,800
ocean comparatively to the size so like

2324
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:53,760
let's say that that

2325
01:33:57,590 --> 01:33:56,560
species of whale like yeah the one that

2326
01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:57,600
was recently found

2327
01:34:00,790 --> 01:34:00,000
it wasn't thought to be extinct it just

2328
01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:00,800
was never

2329
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:03,600
recorded and it's totally new i just

2330
01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:05,440
think it's so ignorant of of us

2331
01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:07,760
as humans just to believe everything

2332
01:34:11,030 --> 01:34:09,840
every scientist ever says like hey we

2333
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:11,040
know all the animals

2334
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:13,920
don't stop looking stop it yeah we know

2335
01:34:17,189 --> 01:34:14,960
it all

2336
01:34:18,709 --> 01:34:17,199
i think that's kind of i think we're

2337
01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:18,719
past that uh

2338
01:34:21,910 --> 01:34:21,040
at least i am i think i think we all are

2339
01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:21,920
here

2340
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,600
uh and if you made it this far in the

2341
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:25,199
the episode and you're curious about

2342
01:34:30,070 --> 01:34:26,400
that i feel like

2343
01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:30,080
deep down you know that bro

2344
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:32,719
this there's a this thing is out there

2345
01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:33,360
this this

2346
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:36,159
sasquatch this yeti is out there man so

2347
01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:37,199
the uh

2348
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:42,800
said but in china the guy who was gifted

2349
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,080
uh one of these things uh is it

2350
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:48,639
is it still around like did they save it

2351
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,320
is it is it gone by now

2352
01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:52,800
i mean this is three thousand years ago

2353
01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:53,440
oh

2354
01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:55,199
yeah that's a long i think everybody in

2355
01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:56,719
that story is dead

2356
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:59,360
long dead i didn't know i didn't know if

2357
01:35:01,910 --> 01:35:00,000
it was like they

2358
01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:01,920
still have like the skeletal structure

2359
01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:04,320
uh and it's just been passed down for

2360
01:35:08,229 --> 01:35:05,840
four years because i mean there's still

2361
01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:08,239
stuff that's been thousands of years old

2362
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:09,040
that the chinese

2363
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:11,280
still have you know and it's the longest

2364
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:12,239
and and uh

2365
01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:15,440
you know running civilization uh

2366
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:19,199
but i mean isn't there a uh i forget

2367
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,880
if it's like maybe tibet or something or

2368
01:35:23,669 --> 01:35:22,880
like a group of monks claim to have like

2369
01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:23,679
the skull

2370
01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:26,080
and like they have a skull cap of a yeti

2371
01:35:29,910 --> 01:35:26,800
that they

2372
01:35:32,950 --> 01:35:29,920
um keep as a sacred

2373
01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:32,960
religious um item

2374
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:35,920
and there have been researchers that

2375
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:37,040
have traveled there

2376
01:35:41,350 --> 01:35:40,800
and taken samples of it they've taken

2377
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:41,360
hair

2378
01:35:46,629 --> 01:35:44,320
and they've been allowed to do little

2379
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:46,639
core samples like

2380
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:50,320
take a little plug of bone fragment

2381
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:54,080
out of the skull what happens

2382
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,960
every time it seems when even when the

2383
01:36:02,070 --> 01:35:58,560
olympic project

2384
01:36:02,709 --> 01:36:02,080
had dr meldrum out and they found hair

2385
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:02,719
samples

2386
01:36:07,590 --> 01:36:06,400
and edna and they sent it off to todd

2387
01:36:11,750 --> 01:36:07,600
disidel to be

2388
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:11,760
tested in new york state

2389
01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:14,960
it comes up as a unknown primate or it

2390
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:16,080
comes up as

2391
01:36:24,149 --> 01:36:19,600
human-like and

2392
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:24,159
what you'll commonly find in dna studies

2393
01:36:31,590 --> 01:36:28,560
especially if you took a hair off of a

2394
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:31,600
chimpanzee which is our closest cousin

2395
01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:34,400
of the primates and you take a hair off

2396
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:35,840
of me

2397
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:39,440
obviously they'll look different

2398
01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:42,639
and my hair is beautiful but

2399
01:36:49,109 --> 01:36:46,320
if you went to a uh a

2400
01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:49,119
dna testing facility and they tested

2401
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:50,080
that

2402
01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:52,960
unless you told them well sorry wait a

2403
01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:53,840
second

2404
01:37:01,109 --> 01:36:57,440
chimpanzees we have enough dna

2405
01:37:02,629 --> 01:37:01,119
we have enough samples um that we can

2406
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:02,639
rule out okay that's definitely a

2407
01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:05,520
chimpanzee but if it was a more exotic

2408
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:06,639
sort of primate

2409
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:08,800
something that we don't have tons of

2410
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:11,280
samples of

2411
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:13,840
it will come up almost human and

2412
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:16,159
chimpanzee for sure will come up almost

2413
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:17,119
human

2414
01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:18,400
and that that goes along with the

2415
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:25,590
between their dna and ours is

2416
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:32,390
so that's that means that

2417
01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,760
you know there's a lot of people out

2418
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:35,199
there that could be mistaken as

2419
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:36,880
chimpanzees probably

2420
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:39,440
uh me for sure you for sure dude so that

2421
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:40,480
brings me up to

2422
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:44,159
this next question of dna uh

2423
01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:46,639
we're talking about the nests and how

2424
01:37:50,229 --> 01:37:48,560
they're situated maybe this is like a

2425
01:37:53,830 --> 01:37:50,239
birthing area

2426
01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:53,840
anybody who's had a kid uh knows that

2427
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:56,560
uh after the process is done there's a

2428
01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:58,159
lot of dna everywhere

2429
01:38:02,310 --> 01:38:00,400
right has anybody ever like went to

2430
01:38:02,950 --> 01:38:02,320
these nest sites and maybe taking like

2431
01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:02,960
some stuff

2432
01:38:08,470 --> 01:38:06,159
out of the nest uh if it did have a

2433
01:38:11,189 --> 01:38:08,480
a baby in that nest i mean there's

2434
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:11,199
probably a lot of stuff in there

2435
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:18,629
what's that it boils down to money

2436
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:21,840
that makes sense yep yeah

2437
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:25,199
what you're asking for is uh a deep dive

2438
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:26,239
research

2439
01:38:33,669 --> 01:38:29,600
and what uh darcy is alluding to is that

2440
01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:33,679
the dna testing that comes back says

2441
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:37,119
well there's enough human dna in this we

2442
01:38:42,390 --> 01:38:39,280
have to assume it's human

2443
01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:42,400
but that just means that the

2444
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:45,520
the dna testing needs to be taken to a

2445
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:47,280
deeper dive level

2446
01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:49,360
to get to some of the unknown

2447
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:50,800
characteristics

2448
01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:53,840
yeah um that are most likely there

2449
01:38:58,149 --> 01:38:56,480
but because we only gave them a thousand

2450
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:58,159
dollars they did a thousand dollar

2451
01:39:01,510 --> 01:39:00,960
test yeah i i i feel like the analogy

2452
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:01,520
there is

2453
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:04,320
is uh do you have money for an x-ray or

2454
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:04,880
a ct

2455
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:08,080
uh ct scan or or an mri it's like you

2456
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:09,920
would get much more information

2457
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:12,400
if you had health insurance in your i

2458
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:13,600
mean who can like

2459
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:16,239
out of pocket pay for us a cat scan you

2460
01:39:20,470 --> 01:39:18,159
know and i can understand too like how

2461
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:20,480
like it's got to be frustrating at some

2462
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:21,920
point right because i mean like even

2463
01:39:26,950 --> 01:39:24,000
like uh what is it like the the atacama

2464
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:26,960
desert uh little mummy that they found

2465
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:27,760
it's like

2466
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:30,800
of your palm yeah

2467
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:33,199
and they run dna tests and they're like

2468
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:35,119
oh yeah it's got human dna in it

2469
01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:36,239
and then they look at it and they're

2470
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:37,840
like yeah this thing was probably a

2471
01:39:40,629 --> 01:39:38,800
full-grown

2472
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,639
adult and you're like but it's it's this

2473
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:42,480
big are you really telling me that just

2474
01:39:46,709 --> 01:39:44,560
because it had some human dna

2475
01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:46,719
and and and fully developed ribs that

2476
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:48,719
you're telling me that this this tiny

2477
01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:51,600
hat like six-inch being is a full-grown

2478
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:52,239
adult

2479
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,600
just because it had some human dna in it

2480
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:57,440
yeah i think it i think i think we

2481
01:40:01,510 --> 01:39:59,199
really need to learn more

2482
01:40:02,310 --> 01:40:01,520
i think i would love to learn more about

2483
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:02,320
just just

2484
01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:05,040
just know that when somebody says well

2485
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:07,199
dna should have proved it by now

2486
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:10,560
by what measure yeah you know uh if

2487
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,960
if you're only measuring you know down

2488
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:14,880
an inch but you really need to go 12

2489
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:16,000
inches

2490
01:40:19,510 --> 01:40:17,840
you know as far as using a measuring

2491
01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:19,520
analogy goes yeah

2492
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:22,320
you know how deep was your dive how you

2493
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:24,320
know how much information are you really

2494
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:25,760
collecting to make

2495
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:28,239
the assertion that we have something

2496
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:29,600
that is more than

2497
01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:31,760
than human more than what we're the

2498
01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:33,520
information we're getting back

2499
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:35,119
so you're telling me the information

2500
01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:37,520
you've got on your shallow dive says

2501
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:39,679
it's human that that's what it is

2502
01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:42,480
exactly yeah that's it and also when you

2503
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:42,800
do

2504
01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:45,920
dna tests it's like each i know there's

2505
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:47,440
probably a bunch of different ways you

2506
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:48,239
could do it

2507
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:50,000
but in order to do that you have to

2508
01:40:54,790 --> 01:40:52,159
destroy your specimen

2509
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:54,800
so you know if unless you want to

2510
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:55,440
destroy

2511
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:59,040
every single uh piece or bone or hair or

2512
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:01,280
whatever if you get two hairs like

2513
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:03,440
man you get two chances because you need

2514
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:05,360
to get that follicle right like down to

2515
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:06,159
the the

2516
01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:08,239
the meaty part the white part yeah to

2517
01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:11,119
get like some dna or skin or whatever

2518
01:41:16,790 --> 01:41:14,239
but yeah you can only one uh

2519
01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:16,800
run like one test at a time so what

2520
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,000
about what about like

2521
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:19,840
uh i guess a cheap way to kind of go

2522
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:21,280
about this that would be kind of cool

2523
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:22,239
like if you had like a

2524
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:25,040
uh what you believe to possibly be a

2525
01:41:27,910 --> 01:41:25,760
bigfoot

2526
01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:27,920
sample uh have you ever thought about

2527
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:29,440
like throwing it in a tube and sending

2528
01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:29,840
it to

2529
01:41:33,910 --> 01:41:31,920
23andme and seeing what they come back

2530
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:33,920
with like where is this thing from

2531
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:37,199
like all over the world yeah

2532
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:40,320
i did 23 and me i i think they're

2533
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:44,320
uh i wouldn't do it a bit of a waste of

2534
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:46,480
money in my opinion

2535
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,520
uh but but you know that's just based on

2536
01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:50,880
my experience but

2537
01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:53,119
uh did they say that you're here that

2538
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:55,119
would be cool i think if we sent it off

2539
01:41:59,830 --> 01:41:56,719
they would say you know

2540
01:42:02,310 --> 01:41:59,840
there it looks like you've got uh

2541
01:42:04,550 --> 01:42:02,320
ancestors in china

2542
01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:04,560
uh parts of eastern europe possibly

2543
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:06,000
russia definitely

2544
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,960
canada the united states i'd be like ah

2545
01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:10,560
there you go it proves a theory that

2546
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:12,480
this uh creature lives everywhere

2547
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:15,760
yes yes that's a really

2548
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:17,199
that's a yeah you gotta find a bigfoot

2549
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:19,360
now and do it man there's one in travis

2550
01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:21,280
county when we looked up the the little

2551
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:23,199
map thing there's one siding like right

2552
01:42:28,149 --> 01:42:24,880
here in our own county yeah

2553
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:28,159
and there's only one but

2554
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:29,920
go see if you can get some hair from it

2555
01:42:32,950 --> 01:42:32,000
from that dude i know the investigators

2556
01:42:35,270 --> 01:42:32,960
that'd be amazing

2557
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:35,280
that's you sent it to 23andme and record

2558
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:36,480
it yeah man

2559
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:38,480
it sounds like it sounds like what needs

2560
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:40,639
to happen is like

2561
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:42,560
bob bigelow needs to be interested in

2562
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:44,639
bigfoot so he can help fund this whole

2563
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:45,600
thing he's done

2564
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:47,040
he's done aliens he's done the

2565
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:49,280
paranormal now now he's getting into

2566
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:51,280
after death studies it's like all right

2567
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:52,080
bob come on

2568
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:53,600
let me bring you into the into the

2569
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:56,080
bigfoot camp for like another year

2570
01:43:02,709 --> 01:42:59,679
i did no idea yeah so now he's a big

2571
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,719
big deal with skimwalker ranch and uh

2572
01:43:06,390 --> 01:43:05,199
yeah you know he was working behind the

2573
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:06,400
scenes on atip

2574
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:09,280
yep yeah you know that was mostly his

2575
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:10,400
doing and

2576
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:12,719
the real sad thing is that uh bigelow

2577
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:14,000
airspace is done

2578
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:16,080
they shut down like a few months ago

2579
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:17,600
uh-huh but um

2580
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,960
yeah who knows maybe maybe even maybe he

2581
01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:22,320
even opened arrows

2582
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:25,679
uh big low aerospace space just

2583
01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:29,119
to get closer to the you know

2584
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:32,080
secret space and ufo truth that's going

2585
01:43:34,629 --> 01:43:32,639
on right

2586
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:34,639
it's very possible yeah he's on a new

2587
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:36,239
endeavor now where he's started

2588
01:43:38,550 --> 01:43:37,920
something he's offering half a million

2589
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,560
dollars

2590
01:43:42,310 --> 01:43:40,639
he's trying to figure out what happens

2591
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:42,320
is there life after death

2592
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:44,239
and so that's what he's trying to figure

2593
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,679
out and he's offering like

2594
01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:47,760
scientists half a million dollars to

2595
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:50,159
write a scientific paper

2596
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:53,840
on you know what you believe life after

2597
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:54,719
death

2598
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:57,840
could be and yeah i mean i i think he's

2599
01:44:01,510 --> 01:43:58,480
trying to

2600
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:01,520
he's gonna bottom he's gonna call up

2601
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:02,960
rick straussman

2602
01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:07,440
yeah yeah dude i mean this this uh it's

2603
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:09,600
it's worth a shot maybe email them dude

2604
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:10,800
you know

2605
01:44:16,070 --> 01:44:14,560
hey bob yeah i don't think so he doesn't

2606
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:16,080
respond to anybody

2607
01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:18,400
no not even jesse ventura remember when

2608
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:20,239
they tried to get them on

2609
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:22,960
did you ever see that on uh i just love

2610
01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:24,239
it it was a sci-fi channel

2611
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:26,960
i loved jesse conspiracy conspiracy

2612
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:28,480
theory with jessie ventura he was like

2613
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:29,280
i'm gonna go

2614
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:32,880
talk to bob bigelow yes in nevada now

2615
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,199
i love that guy so much they went yeah

2616
01:44:39,189 --> 01:44:37,119
they went to vegas and they just like

2617
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:39,199
ambushed him with a bunch of camera crew

2618
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:41,119
and stuff and he was just like

2619
01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:44,080
peace guys security guards boom that's

2620
01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:48,080
not the way to go about it

2621
01:44:54,149 --> 01:44:51,199
oh man yeah man you would think though

2622
01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:54,159
like you know you would think like as as

2623
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:55,760
big of a topic and as

2624
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:58,560
interesting as a topic is see dude this

2625
01:45:02,149 --> 01:45:00,000
is why i hope i become a

2626
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:02,159
millionaire like a billionaire like bob

2627
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:03,199
bigelow because i would

2628
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:04,639
that's what i would spend my money on

2629
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:06,560
too yeah you know yes

2630
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:08,719
ufos and then i would definitely come to

2631
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:11,280
you guys and be like hey here's a

2632
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:13,119
here's a couple hundred grand let's get

2633
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:15,040
this done hey wall street bets

2634
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:16,639
uh go ahead and just funnel all your

2635
01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:19,040
stuff into ufo podcasting that's right

2636
01:45:27,390 --> 01:45:25,350
yes uh it would be called cryptid

2637
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:27,400
currency

2638
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:30,400
yeah for sure

2639
01:45:34,229 --> 01:45:32,400
dude that's the one let's start it up

2640
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:34,239
boys i'm telling you it would be

2641
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:35,600
something kind of cool to like just

2642
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,159
transaction between people who are in

2643
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:40,560
you know bigfoot ufo paranormal

2644
01:45:43,990 --> 01:45:41,760
communities and just

2645
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:44,000
you know help each other out cryptid

2646
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,679
currency dude

2647
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,760
that's pretty awesome that's amazing

2648
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:49,040
that's pretty awesome so

2649
01:45:53,590 --> 01:45:52,639
the uh you know in the uh uh unwanted

2650
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:53,600
sasquatch

2651
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:56,560
you know we had uh i was watching it and

2652
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:57,600
they were talking about

2653
01:46:02,229 --> 01:46:00,239
how you know uh how these things

2654
01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:02,239
possibly got over here to north america

2655
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:04,480
and it seems to be the same story

2656
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:08,080
uh as as humans right the bering strait

2657
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,280
at some point they had come across and

2658
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:14,400
you know now they're here

2659
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:16,880
yeah well they the the science behind

2660
01:46:20,790 --> 01:46:17,679
that is that

2661
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:20,800
um humans would have migrated from

2662
01:46:27,590 --> 01:46:23,920
asia to canada

2663
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:27,600
and north america uh following

2664
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:29,920
their food source so there's evidence

2665
01:46:35,030 --> 01:46:32,320
that they followed mammoths

2666
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:35,040
mammoths made it as far as mexico's we

2667
01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:35,440
know

2668
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:40,000
because uh this year um

2669
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:43,760
amlo the president of mexico was

2670
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:45,119
building a new

2671
01:46:49,990 --> 01:46:48,480
train line from mexico city out to he's

2672
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:50,000
trying to build it out to like the

2673
01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:50,960
yucatan

2674
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:53,520
you know in terms of where that is it's

2675
01:46:58,070 --> 01:46:54,960
close to

2676
01:47:00,550 --> 01:46:58,080
cancun area of mexico and

2677
01:47:01,270 --> 01:47:00,560
they found a whole bunch they were

2678
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:01,280
digging up

2679
01:47:07,270 --> 01:47:04,639
a whole bunch of mammoth parts uh

2680
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:07,280
in mexico city to to do that project and

2681
01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:08,080
they had to stop

2682
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:10,880
to start excavating properly and getting

2683
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:12,960
those mammoth parts out without damaging

2684
01:47:17,189 --> 01:47:14,159
them so

2685
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:17,199
um that gives you an idea of uh

2686
01:47:22,310 --> 01:47:20,320
the migration of that type of animal

2687
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:22,320
and the bearings straight the bering

2688
01:47:27,910 --> 01:47:24,320
land bridge

2689
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:27,920
was a perfect place for

2690
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:30,480
mammals like that to cross to north

2691
01:47:34,709 --> 01:47:31,440
america and

2692
01:47:37,030 --> 01:47:34,719
for example bears we think oh

2693
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:37,040
they originated in north america like

2694
01:47:42,550 --> 01:47:39,440
the black bear the grizzly bear

2695
01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:42,560
all that um they actually came from asia

2696
01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:45,760
and they used the bering land bridge to

2697
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:47,520
cross to north america

2698
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:50,560
the in asia they had sun bears and in

2699
01:47:56,390 --> 01:47:53,920
um russia they have you know

2700
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:56,400
kodiaks they have like the exact same

2701
01:48:01,109 --> 01:47:57,600
sort of bear

2702
01:48:01,350 --> 01:48:01,119
and so the working theory with sasquatch

2703
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:01,360
or

2704
01:48:05,109 --> 01:48:04,000
the yaren is that these are cousins

2705
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:05,119
these are

2706
01:48:10,870 --> 01:48:08,320
um a a hominid

2707
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:10,880
that has been trapped on their separate

2708
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:11,840
land

2709
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,280
um and uh it's very possible that that

2710
01:48:18,310 --> 01:48:17,679
you know one day we're able to actually

2711
01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:18,320
trap

2712
01:48:26,709 --> 01:48:21,440
or capture one of these things

2713
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:30,550
we'd be able to prove that theory right

2714
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:33,840
but for now we can speculate and know

2715
01:48:37,430 --> 01:48:36,320
that other animals have made that

2716
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:37,440
crossing

2717
01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:39,840
and humans followed over here and in

2718
01:48:45,109 --> 01:48:41,520
fact uh

2719
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:45,119
if you look at the facial features of

2720
01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:48,800
the inuit the native canadians native

2721
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:50,320
americans

2722
01:48:58,830 --> 01:48:53,840
uh the navajo the

2723
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:01,990
natives they all

2724
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:05,040
seem to have origins in asia

2725
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:07,679
they have facial features that are

2726
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:08,800
represent

2727
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:12,159
uh the pan pacific islanders and and

2728
01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:15,520
asia and uh there's

2729
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:18,800
a great history of those people even

2730
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:22,480
drifting on uh possible possibly using

2731
01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:23,119
the ocean

2732
01:49:26,629 --> 01:49:24,880
at one point to come over to north

2733
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:26,639
america

2734
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:30,159
so you'd like swimming or like making no

2735
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:32,960
no they would have used like

2736
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:36,159
primitive ships and they would have

2737
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:39,599
moved with the current type thing yeah

2738
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:40,320
yeah

2739
01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:43,840
it is uh was it was it gigantopithecus

2740
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:45,199
was that discovered in

2741
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:48,400
asia the first fossil that's right

2742
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:50,960
that's right it was discovered in asia

2743
01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:51,440
and

2744
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:55,119
uh they kept finding teeth

2745
01:49:59,830 --> 01:49:57,679
uh and they were dating back you know

2746
01:50:01,750 --> 01:49:59,840
closer to our time so oh that

2747
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:01,760
those look like they've been carbon

2748
01:50:06,229 --> 01:50:03,119
dated to 150

2749
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:06,239
000 years ago and you know uh down the

2750
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:08,639
line and getting closer and closer to

2751
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:11,840
when we existed so that means

2752
01:50:16,629 --> 01:50:15,360
250 000 to 300 000 years ago when we

2753
01:50:19,589 --> 01:50:16,639
started showing up

2754
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:19,599
there would have been encounters and

2755
01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:20,480
there would have been

2756
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:23,280
probably some violent encounters who

2757
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:24,159
knows right

2758
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:28,880
right um uh and there's some pretty cool

2759
01:50:32,470 --> 01:50:32,000
uh renderings that anthropologists have

2760
01:50:35,990 --> 01:50:32,480
done

2761
01:50:39,149 --> 01:50:36,000
of primitive men warring with each other

2762
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:39,159
uh and that includes things like

2763
01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:41,440
gigantopithecus being surrounded by

2764
01:50:55,510 --> 01:50:53,750
uh it'll come to me not neanderthals

2765
01:50:57,350 --> 01:50:55,520
or something like that right and they're

2766
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:57,360
like denisovan

2767
01:51:00,870 --> 01:50:59,119
trying to have a little battle and i

2768
01:51:03,669 --> 01:51:00,880
think there's a very

2769
01:51:05,189 --> 01:51:03,679
there's even stories i can't remember

2770
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:05,199
where the story

2771
01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:09,040
uh originates i think it's from a

2772
01:51:12,470 --> 01:51:11,440
native american tribe in the united

2773
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,480
states

2774
01:51:16,229 --> 01:51:15,440
that said they had a battle with a

2775
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:16,239
primitive

2776
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:20,080
type of ape-like tribe and they trapped

2777
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:23,360
them in this cave um and

2778
01:51:28,070 --> 01:51:25,760
uh threw fire in and they wouldn't let

2779
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,080
them come out and if they came out

2780
01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:30,719
they would you know spear them and stuff

2781
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:32,159
and that's how they killed

2782
01:51:37,189 --> 01:51:35,920
off this tribe of uh primitive ape-like

2783
01:51:40,229 --> 01:51:37,199
creatures that were living

2784
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:40,239
in north america um

2785
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:42,000
so there's a history of that sort of

2786
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:43,760
battle happening you know and that could

2787
01:51:49,430 --> 01:51:44,159
be

2788
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:49,440
another sort of uh anecdote of

2789
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:52,880
something like bigfoot or sasquatch

2790
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:56,159
being killed off by homo sapiens

2791
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:58,239
yeah yeah yeah it would also make sense

2792
01:52:02,709 --> 01:51:59,760
why they would be like

2793
01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:02,719
hey i'm tired of this let's go hide in

2794
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:04,560
the woods

2795
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:08,800
yeah also man i'm thinking that

2796
01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:12,159
that decision has to be a very uh

2797
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:15,520
cognitive uh strategical thing cause i

2798
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:17,199
think i really think that that's what

2799
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:18,560
happened they're like hey you know what

2800
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:19,599
this is

2801
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:24,000
as long as we cover our tracks

2802
01:52:27,910 --> 01:52:26,159
as long as we not bury our dead but

2803
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:27,920
maybe burn our dead do you guys have any

2804
01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:29,040
thoughts on that like

2805
01:52:32,310 --> 01:52:31,360
why we don't see bones or burials

2806
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:32,320
because i mean

2807
01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:34,320
burials have been a part of culture for

2808
01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:36,000
the neanderthals and

2809
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:37,599
and a lot of hominid creatures

2810
01:52:40,870 --> 01:52:39,040
throughout what we find

2811
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:40,880
is like yeah the reason why we find

2812
01:52:43,990 --> 01:52:42,960
bones is a lot of the times because they

2813
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:44,000
buried their dead or

2814
01:52:47,910 --> 01:52:46,400
maybe they got caught in a tar trap uh

2815
01:52:49,109 --> 01:52:47,920
there's a couple of things wrong with

2816
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:49,119
that too it's like

2817
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:52,080
accidents you know being caught in a uh

2818
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:53,360
a tar trap

2819
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:56,800
is a lot of uh jurassic period uh yeah

2820
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:57,360
i'm saying

2821
01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:59,119
it's quicksand but yeah what do you guys

2822
01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:00,639
think about that what

2823
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:04,159
well for um the pacific northwest which

2824
01:53:08,470 --> 01:53:05,199
seems to be

2825
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:08,480
the common place that we see sightings

2826
01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:09,040
of this

2827
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:12,239
these creatures um

2828
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:15,760
it's not the greatest soil for preserve

2829
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:18,639
preserving bones right because it's

2830
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:19,280
highly

2831
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:21,520
acidic yeah that's what the the pine

2832
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:22,639
trees

2833
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:25,440
and the this type of foliage creates a

2834
01:53:30,790 --> 01:53:27,199
very acidic soil

2835
01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:30,800
which just eats away at calcium

2836
01:53:34,870 --> 01:53:33,679
and that's why you'll come across

2837
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:34,880
sometimes

2838
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:38,239
the body of a deer or the bones of a

2839
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:39,040
deer

2840
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,920
and many of the bones are gone or

2841
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:43,199
deteriorated

2842
01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:45,679
but only some are left and that's an

2843
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:47,760
example of how the environment breaks

2844
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:49,199
everything down

2845
01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:51,280
and return returns the nutrients to the

2846
01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:53,679
earth but

2847
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:57,520
i don't know about uh the burial

2848
01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:00,800
hypothesis um i think

2849
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:04,159
that my theory

2850
01:54:08,950 --> 01:54:06,880
is that we've found bones throughout

2851
01:54:09,910 --> 01:54:08,960
history and north america and they may

2852
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:09,920
have been

2853
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:13,280
catalogued in a museum you know a

2854
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:14,800
natural history museum

2855
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:17,920
as something else um or they're just

2856
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:20,960
not properly identified yeah

2857
01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:24,800
um because again we have

2858
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:28,480
very good carbon dating technology

2859
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:32,000
but we often can mix you know

2860
01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:36,159
uh relic hominids with

2861
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:40,320
things that possibly have gone extinct

2862
01:54:48,709 --> 01:54:44,639
even further back meaning

2863
01:54:51,669 --> 01:54:48,719
we have only started

2864
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:51,679
now with modern technology been able to

2865
01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:53,360
really identify

2866
01:55:00,310 --> 01:54:56,960
really well what certain bones go

2867
01:55:01,990 --> 01:55:00,320
with certain relic hominids and if we're

2868
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:02,000
thinking about the 1800s

2869
01:55:08,870 --> 01:55:05,440
or the 1900s when they're doing these

2870
01:55:12,550 --> 01:55:08,880
uh fossil remain excavations or

2871
01:55:14,390 --> 01:55:12,560
they find remains they did not have the

2872
01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:14,400
technology to

2873
01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:18,400
properly catalogue and date these bones

2874
01:55:25,270 --> 01:55:21,440
um and they probably also

2875
01:55:28,390 --> 01:55:25,280
you know uh compared them with the wrong

2876
01:55:30,070 --> 01:55:28,400
sort of hominids that we think of in the

2877
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:30,080
1800s i'm pretty sure they didn't even

2878
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:31,199
have toilet paper

2879
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:34,159
so i mean how can you expect them to to

2880
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:35,199
be able to

2881
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:37,599
that is true there's a lot of people

2882
01:55:42,709 --> 01:55:39,360
walking around with itchy [\h__\h]

2883
01:55:44,870 --> 01:55:42,719
yeah yeah yeah dude yes or like you know

2884
01:55:47,109 --> 01:55:44,880
we've even heard claims of people

2885
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:47,119
finding these giant bones

2886
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:49,840
and you know there's also this group of

2887
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:51,119
people that are like yeah

2888
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,280
remember when giants roam the earth and

2889
01:55:57,430 --> 01:55:55,360
maybe it's just a misclassification of

2890
01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:57,440
like oh hey that could actually be a

2891
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:58,560
sasquatch bone

2892
01:56:01,750 --> 01:56:01,360
yeah you know as opposed to like you

2893
01:56:04,229 --> 01:56:01,760
know

2894
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:04,239
and then now like the the the idea is

2895
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:05,280
like oh

2896
01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,199
let's go to one of the most famous

2897
01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:09,440
museums that has some of these

2898
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:12,480
huge skulls of these uh uh

2899
01:56:16,310 --> 01:56:15,360
related uh homonym creatures and like

2900
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:16,320
hey say

2901
01:56:20,229 --> 01:56:18,800
yeah we want to do dna tests again but

2902
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:20,239
we're going to have to destroy half of

2903
01:56:23,589 --> 01:56:21,840
it they would say no

2904
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:23,599
because you would need at least half of

2905
01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:25,040
it to get enough

2906
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:28,639
data from that if it's still preserved

2907
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:31,760
i like what uh david said earlier too

2908
01:56:35,589 --> 01:56:34,239
uh that it's it's all about money and

2909
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:35,599
you know the money

2910
01:56:41,430 --> 01:56:38,880
in science these days is going towards

2911
01:56:42,550 --> 01:56:41,440
transportation technology finance

2912
01:56:54,070 --> 01:56:42,560
technology

2913
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:54,080
huge demand right now there's not a lot

2914
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:54,719
of

2915
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:57,280
scientific funding going towards

2916
01:57:02,629 --> 01:56:58,960
checking out

2917
01:57:03,430 --> 01:57:02,639
old findings of relic hominid skulls and

2918
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:03,440
bones

2919
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:05,760
in the back of some museum somewhere you

2920
01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:06,639
know what i mean

2921
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:09,520
there's literally zero interest from the

2922
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,320
scientific

2923
01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:12,719
community there's a bunch of people that

2924
01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:14,480
are in anthropology and

2925
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:17,520
and are interested in that but uh

2926
01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:20,560
who gets to decide that that's the real

2927
01:57:23,669 --> 01:57:22,400
big question usually it's the people

2928
01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:23,679
that have money

2929
01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:25,599
right yeah yeah i like to look at it

2930
01:57:29,990 --> 01:57:27,280
like this you invest

2931
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:30,000
uh monetary value or time and i feel

2932
01:57:33,030 --> 01:57:30,560
like

2933
01:57:33,910 --> 01:57:33,040
we're getting past this precipice where

2934
01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:33,920
i think

2935
01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:35,840
a lot a larger percentage of the

2936
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:38,080
populace is investing not money but

2937
01:57:41,910 --> 01:57:40,800
time into looking into this stuff and i

2938
01:57:44,070 --> 01:57:41,920
think it's really

2939
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:44,080
encouraging yeah there's not big

2940
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:45,040
corporations

2941
01:57:48,470 --> 01:57:46,480
throwing millions of dollars at looking

2942
01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:48,480
at this stuff but we have people like

2943
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:51,440
me and joe that are you know yeah we

2944
01:57:54,149 --> 01:57:52,719
went to college but we don't know

2945
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:54,159
anything about this stuff when we talk

2946
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:54,719
to

2947
01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:55,920
people like you that are that are

2948
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:57,760
curious you did i mean i don't know what

2949
01:58:00,390 --> 01:57:59,440
you went to school for but like i don't

2950
01:58:03,669 --> 01:58:00,400
know if it was for

2951
01:58:04,149 --> 01:58:03,679
paleontology but i mean you and dave too

2952
01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:04,159
like

2953
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:05,920
y'all are just smart people that figured

2954
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:07,599
it out and you put the time in and you

2955
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,119
invested not money but

2956
01:58:14,950 --> 01:58:12,560
but time probably both but both

2957
01:58:16,149 --> 01:58:14,960
yeah i went to school and studied film

2958
01:58:19,109 --> 01:58:16,159
and sociology

2959
01:58:21,430 --> 01:58:19,119
so yeah and then i went went back to

2960
01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:21,440
school and studied like computer science

2961
01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:22,960
type stuff while i was

2962
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:26,159
working in that industry so nice yeah i

2963
01:58:33,510 --> 01:58:32,310
how about you dave that sounds funny in

2964
01:58:36,790 --> 01:58:33,520
psychology

2965
01:58:39,830 --> 01:58:36,800
yeah cool yes i studied beer and uh

2966
01:58:42,070 --> 01:58:39,840
uh beer that'd be

2967
01:58:43,030 --> 01:58:42,080
that'd be an interesting aspect like i

2968
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:43,040
don't know uh

2969
01:58:49,109 --> 01:58:46,080
like if you if we ever got like

2970
01:58:50,950 --> 01:58:49,119
a live bigfoot and like everybody was

2971
01:58:54,629 --> 01:58:50,960
kind of cool like we had this

2972
01:58:57,109 --> 01:58:54,639
working uh relationship and to like

2973
01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:57,119
study the psychology of a bigfoot that

2974
01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:58,080
would be super

2975
01:59:03,669 --> 01:59:01,679
interesting there's there's um

2976
01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:03,679
a camp of people that believe that

2977
01:59:07,589 --> 01:59:05,119
possibly uh

2978
01:59:09,189 --> 01:59:07,599
like sasquatch or bigfoot are actually

2979
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:09,199
native canadians or

2980
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:12,239
americans that um

2981
01:59:16,550 --> 01:59:14,840
didn't want to assimilate to modern

2982
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:16,560
culture so

2983
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:20,320
they're i can't remember what tribe it

2984
01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:21,199
comes from

2985
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:24,400
in in north america but there's like a

2986
01:59:29,750 --> 01:59:24,960
tale

2987
01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:29,760
of the cousins like the more primitive

2988
01:59:36,149 --> 01:59:33,040
ancestors of this tribe at one point

2989
01:59:38,870 --> 01:59:36,159
said you know we're going to the forest

2990
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:38,880
goodbye type thing and that that could

2991
01:59:41,910 --> 01:59:39,440
also

2992
01:59:43,910 --> 01:59:41,920
you never know i mean people do describe

2993
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:43,920
sometimes having these encounters and

2994
01:59:48,310 --> 01:59:44,960
they

2995
01:59:50,149 --> 01:59:48,320
have hunting rifles and stuff like that

2996
01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:50,159
and when they're looking through this

2997
01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:52,960
this viewfinder they end up seeing a

2998
01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:53,440
very

2999
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:56,320
human looking face other than all of the

3000
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:56,880
fur

3001
02:00:04,870 --> 02:00:00,560
and the dark you know black sort of skin

3002
02:00:08,709 --> 02:00:04,880
facial features and stuff so um

3003
02:00:11,910 --> 02:00:08,719
maybe that theory has some legs

3004
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:11,920
and feet even if you relate it to uh

3005
02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:12,560
humans

3006
02:00:16,950 --> 02:00:15,760
i mean you know there's there's quite a

3007
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:16,960
large population

3008
02:00:22,070 --> 02:00:20,080
of us that also decide hey

3009
02:00:23,750 --> 02:00:22,080
i'm done with this i'm going out to the

3010
02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:23,760
woods and what happens

3011
02:00:27,350 --> 02:00:26,159
their hair gets pretty long their beard

3012
02:00:28,709 --> 02:00:27,360
gets pretty long

3013
02:00:35,109 --> 02:00:28,719
you know and they learn by yourself

3014
02:00:38,950 --> 02:00:38,470
de-evolution right maybe it reminds me

3015
02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:38,960
of of

3016
02:00:45,350 --> 02:00:42,560
why the orangutan orangutan right is the

3017
02:00:46,790 --> 02:00:45,360
the the man of the woods right or it's

3018
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:46,800
something like that well he's the king

3019
02:00:52,790 --> 02:00:48,719
he's the king man are you talking about

3020
02:00:59,990 --> 02:00:56,790
but yeah like that idea of of uh

3021
02:01:03,589 --> 02:01:00,000
consciously this this this tale

3022
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:03,599
going through uh uh years maybe hundreds

3023
02:01:06,070 --> 02:01:04,000
maybe

3024
02:01:08,070 --> 02:01:06,080
thousands of like yeah one day this guy

3025
02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:08,080
was like hey i'm taking my family

3026
02:01:11,430 --> 02:01:09,760
and these this guy's taking his family

3027
02:01:13,990 --> 02:01:11,440
we're gonna go off in the woods

3028
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:14,000
uh and that was a long time ago and we

3029
02:01:17,669 --> 02:01:14,639
forgot

3030
02:01:19,270 --> 02:01:17,679
that we used to be apes at one point and

3031
02:01:25,030 --> 02:01:19,280
like that's how long the story is that's

3032
02:01:28,550 --> 02:01:27,750
what's that dave oh no i was just i'm

3033
02:01:31,910 --> 02:01:28,560
listening

3034
02:01:34,229 --> 02:01:31,920
i yeah this story is uh very old

3035
02:01:36,470 --> 02:01:34,239
and there's so many branches to the tree

3036
02:01:39,510 --> 02:01:36,480
that we have yet to discover

3037
02:01:41,990 --> 02:01:39,520
and for my two cents uh

3038
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:42,000
the sasquatch or what we are tracking

3039
02:01:45,430 --> 02:01:42,719
here in

3040
02:01:46,550 --> 02:01:45,440
north america is one of those branches

3041
02:01:49,430 --> 02:01:46,560
of the tree

3042
02:01:50,629 --> 02:01:49,440
that somewhere along the line our path

3043
02:01:53,750 --> 02:01:50,639
and their path

3044
02:01:56,390 --> 02:01:53,760
are are similarly intertwined

3045
02:01:57,270 --> 02:01:56,400
but sasquatch or sasquatch and humans

3046
02:02:01,030 --> 02:01:57,280
are humans

3047
02:02:03,510 --> 02:02:01,040
um we i think as researchers

3048
02:02:04,470 --> 02:02:03,520
so too many of us try to ascribe human

3049
02:02:07,030 --> 02:02:04,480
traits to

3050
02:02:08,070 --> 02:02:07,040
to sasquatch and that's where i think we

3051
02:02:10,229 --> 02:02:08,080
go wrong

3052
02:02:11,830 --> 02:02:10,239
they befuddle us because they're not

3053
02:02:14,870 --> 02:02:11,840
human they do things

3054
02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:14,880
in their own way in their own fashion

3055
02:02:18,310 --> 02:02:17,040
and we have to learn sasquatch not they

3056
02:02:20,629 --> 02:02:18,320
have to learn human they know

3057
02:02:21,830 --> 02:02:20,639
everything about us and that is why they

3058
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:21,840
are able to say

3059
02:02:27,350 --> 02:02:25,199
stay 100 um hidden

3060
02:02:28,390 --> 02:02:27,360
it makes a lot of sense yeah i love that

3061
02:02:30,709 --> 02:02:28,400
dude that's beautiful

3062
02:02:33,109 --> 02:02:30,719
yeah it reminds me of just like the

3063
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:33,119
humbling knowledge that

3064
02:02:36,470 --> 02:02:34,560
for as long as we've known about

3065
02:02:39,830 --> 02:02:36,480
dolphins and how smart they are

3066
02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:39,840
we still don't know a lot about dolphins

3067
02:02:44,470 --> 02:02:42,800
like yeah like we know that they're

3068
02:02:45,430 --> 02:02:44,480
smart and like they can like we could

3069
02:02:47,910 --> 02:02:45,440
teach them stuff

3070
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:47,920
but we're still not listening we're not

3071
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:48,960
listening to what they're trying to

3072
02:02:53,030 --> 02:02:50,400
teach us so there's not

3073
02:02:55,030 --> 02:02:53,040
really you can't call it communication

3074
02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:55,040
yeah there's an assumption that we're on

3075
02:03:15,589 --> 02:02:55,440
a

3076
02:03:17,270 --> 02:03:15,599
you know let's uh before we end this

3077
02:03:17,830 --> 02:03:17,280
whole thing let's get a little weird for

3078
02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:17,840
a second

3079
02:03:22,629 --> 02:03:20,639
yeah uh yeah let's go let's have a

3080
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:22,639
little fun and get kind of weird uh i

3081
02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:24,239
mean and this is not

3082
02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:26,639
scientific or anything like that but i

3083
02:03:31,990 --> 02:03:28,080
i'd like to kind of go over

3084
02:03:35,430 --> 02:03:32,000
some of the the more like outrageous

3085
02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:35,440
kind of claims that people have made

3086
02:03:38,709 --> 02:03:38,080
uh first one i want to get your opinion

3087
02:03:42,709 --> 02:03:38,719
on

3088
02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:42,719
is do you think sasquatch could be like

3089
02:03:47,990 --> 02:03:45,760
like a pet for et's and just like humans

3090
02:03:50,390 --> 02:03:48,000
kind of drop their dogs off at

3091
02:03:52,790 --> 02:03:50,400
it parks and leave them occasionally bad

3092
02:03:53,430 --> 02:03:52,800
humans maybe bad aliens drop their pets

3093
02:03:56,069 --> 02:03:53,440
off which are

3094
02:03:58,470 --> 02:03:56,079
or bigfoot off on uh here on planet

3095
02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:01,589
no this is going to be this is going to

3096
02:04:08,149 --> 02:04:02,320
be a quick

3097
02:04:08,159 --> 02:04:12,229
no i that's what i thought

3098
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:14,709
yes yeah well i i i agree with you i

3099
02:04:20,149 --> 02:04:17,119
just i have to enter jackson

3100
02:04:21,510 --> 02:04:20,159
i agree with you 100 that's probably the

3101
02:04:28,149 --> 02:04:21,520
perfect answer you could have

3102
02:04:31,350 --> 02:04:29,910
our community are just we're a bunch of

3103
02:04:33,030 --> 02:04:31,360
goofballs and like

3104
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:33,040
that was one of the funnier ones that

3105
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:34,560
like i don't know

3106
02:04:38,229 --> 02:04:36,320
the more time goes on the more we learn

3107
02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:38,239
about it like we had like we had to ask

3108
02:04:42,550 --> 02:04:39,280
you that

3109
02:04:43,350 --> 02:04:42,560
yeah man what's another one oh i know we

3110
02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:43,360
had kind of

3111
02:04:50,470 --> 02:04:47,280
uh mentioned it a little bit earlier but

3112
02:04:53,669 --> 02:04:50,480
sasquatch being a little bit paranormal

3113
02:04:56,790 --> 02:04:53,679
uh when it comes to these portals

3114
02:04:58,870 --> 02:04:56,800
and things like that i mean yeah

3115
02:04:59,669 --> 02:04:58,880
obviously there's no data really to back

3116
02:05:02,310 --> 02:04:59,679
it up but

3117
02:05:03,750 --> 02:05:02,320
there have been claims that multiple

3118
02:05:06,790 --> 02:05:03,760
people have seen

3119
02:05:10,069 --> 02:05:06,800
something like this and and

3120
02:05:12,790 --> 02:05:10,079
to add on to that the paranormal part is

3121
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:12,800
uh some people have witnessed it being

3122
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:15,040
almost translucent moving

3123
02:05:18,709 --> 02:05:17,920
uh through the forest as almost like a

3124
02:05:20,629 --> 02:05:18,719
gelatin

3125
02:05:22,229 --> 02:05:20,639
substance where you can see through it

3126
02:05:23,189 --> 02:05:22,239
and then all of a sudden it just kind of

3127
02:05:26,069 --> 02:05:23,199
blips into

3128
02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:26,079
existence and out of existence which i

3129
02:05:27,830 --> 02:05:26,880
don't know if you could call that

3130
02:05:29,990 --> 02:05:27,840
paranormal or

3131
02:05:31,510 --> 02:05:30,000
or interdimensional but yeah i mean

3132
02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:31,520
stick it to the your original question

3133
02:05:36,390 --> 02:05:32,639
the paranormal

3134
02:05:38,629 --> 02:05:36,400
part yeah or maybe like a cloaking

3135
02:05:39,510 --> 02:05:38,639
sort of ability or something like that

3136
02:05:42,790 --> 02:05:39,520
right like

3137
02:05:44,550 --> 02:05:42,800
right a chameleon bigfoot um

3138
02:05:45,830 --> 02:05:44,560
i don't know i've heard of i've heard of

3139
02:05:48,950 --> 02:05:45,840
these uh

3140
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:48,960
tales and actually one of my friends

3141
02:05:52,470 --> 02:05:51,679
dave scott with spaced out radio he's

3142
02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:52,480
had

3143
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:55,920
a paranormal experience with bigfoot

3144
02:06:01,830 --> 02:05:59,440
and i trust him i think you know he's

3145
02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:01,840
telling the truth he's had some very

3146
02:06:06,870 --> 02:06:04,239
strange experiences when he's out

3147
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:06,880
in the woods there with merle and it was

3148
02:06:10,229 --> 02:06:07,760
definitely

3149
02:06:11,270 --> 02:06:10,239
something attributed to a sasquatch or

3150
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:11,280
bigfoot

3151
02:06:17,830 --> 02:06:14,320
encounter i need more data

3152
02:06:20,069 --> 02:06:17,840
probably to to tell that story properly

3153
02:06:21,589 --> 02:06:20,079
um there's also people that say that

3154
02:06:24,790 --> 02:06:21,599
they have

3155
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:24,800
experienced mind speak like

3156
02:06:28,069 --> 02:06:26,880
uh you know sort of telekinetic

3157
02:06:31,589 --> 02:06:28,079
communication

3158
02:06:37,270 --> 02:06:35,109
telepathy yeah that's the one um

3159
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:37,280
but i would i would just you know sort

3160
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:40,400
of take a moment to ask these people

3161
02:06:43,990 --> 02:06:42,880
hmm what's the conversation like because

3162
02:06:47,030 --> 02:06:44,000
usually

3163
02:06:49,669 --> 02:06:47,040
if you ask something like that um

3164
02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:49,679
there's not much of an answer i've never

3165
02:06:54,870 --> 02:06:50,960
heard

3166
02:06:55,990 --> 02:06:54,880
these people that uh describe mind speak

3167
02:06:58,870 --> 02:06:56,000
[Applause]

3168
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:58,880
as there being this like deep back and

3169
02:07:05,589 --> 02:07:01,920
forth conversation it's just like

3170
02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:05,599
um you know it it told me that i

3171
02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:08,719
knew that it knew where i was and you

3172
02:07:12,390 --> 02:07:10,960
know not to move or something like that

3173
02:07:16,709 --> 02:07:12,400
and it's like okay

3174
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:16,719
like right but i don't know i think uh

3175
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:19,840
i think there's also a little bit

3176
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:23,280
of um folks that

3177
02:07:28,310 --> 02:07:27,840
follow the ufo related material which i

3178
02:07:30,229 --> 02:07:28,320
do

3179
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:30,239
and i've made a few different

3180
02:07:35,109 --> 02:07:31,760
documentaries

3181
02:07:36,709 --> 02:07:35,119
in that um phenomenon yeah we'll have to

3182
02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:36,719
have you back on to talk about those

3183
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:37,520
other films too

3184
02:07:42,229 --> 02:07:40,079
absolutely i'd love to and maybe i can

3185
02:07:45,270 --> 02:07:42,239
get stephen bassett on with me because

3186
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:45,280
he's in um my latest documentary yep

3187
02:07:48,950 --> 02:07:47,520
uh you know talking about disclosure and

3188
02:07:49,910 --> 02:07:48,960
all that stuff so that would be really

3189
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:49,920
cool but

3190
02:07:56,149 --> 02:07:53,360
um yeah i i find that

3191
02:07:57,030 --> 02:07:56,159
with the sort of ufo phenomenon people

3192
02:08:00,870 --> 02:07:57,040
have discussed

3193
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:00,880
know the betty and barney hill

3194
02:08:08,229 --> 02:08:04,639
case for example had a very credible

3195
02:08:10,149 --> 02:08:08,239
uh account of mindspeak where when they

3196
02:08:12,870 --> 02:08:10,159
first saw the craft

3197
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:12,880
barney got out his binoculars he looked

3198
02:08:19,669 --> 02:08:13,840
up

3199
02:08:21,030 --> 02:08:19,679
looking down at him he immediately got

3200
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:21,040
mind speak

3201
02:08:24,790 --> 02:08:23,440
and he froze and couldn't move and it

3202
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:24,800
was saying

3203
02:08:28,069 --> 02:08:27,119
you know certain things to him through

3204
02:08:31,910 --> 02:08:28,079
his mind

3205
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:31,920
so um i think sometimes what happens is

3206
02:08:37,270 --> 02:08:33,920
the folks that are

3207
02:08:38,550 --> 02:08:37,280
on in in that phenomenon that research

3208
02:08:41,750 --> 02:08:38,560
phenomenon

3209
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:41,760
kind of glom on to the sasquatch

3210
02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:43,840
bigfoot related phenomenon and they

3211
02:08:49,350 --> 02:08:45,199
start to bring those

3212
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:49,360
ideas and theories over um

3213
02:08:53,830 --> 02:08:52,639
and you know i don't discount that that

3214
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:53,840
some of it is real

3215
02:08:58,629 --> 02:08:56,719
but it's possible some of it is just a

3216
02:09:04,069 --> 02:08:58,639
hoax you know it's people trying to

3217
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:04,079
cause attention to themselves yeah

3218
02:09:07,430 --> 02:09:06,000
an interesting thing that i would like

3219
02:09:09,589 --> 02:09:07,440
to you know i don't know

3220
02:09:11,270 --> 02:09:09,599
how much research has been done on

3221
02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:11,280
anything like this

3222
02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:14,000
but there's been been a lot of research

3223
02:09:17,669 --> 02:09:14,560
done

3224
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:17,679
on like you take like these monks who go

3225
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:20,560
into this high meditation right and they

3226
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:23,360
talk about you know being able to astral

3227
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:25,199
project i mean we have

3228
02:09:29,109 --> 02:09:28,079
we have you know uh government documents

3229
02:09:31,030 --> 02:09:29,119
that talk about

3230
02:09:32,870 --> 02:09:31,040
astral projection and like people

3231
02:09:33,669 --> 02:09:32,880
actually being able to do this type of

3232
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:33,679
stuff

3233
02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:37,199
but we never ask ourselves um is an

3234
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:40,000
animal capable of something like that

3235
02:09:44,870 --> 02:09:41,520
for themselves

3236
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:44,880
um you know bigfoot being this

3237
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:47,360
this thing that lives out in the woods

3238
02:09:51,109 --> 02:09:47,920
um

3239
02:09:53,350 --> 02:09:51,119
you know i i always wonder if if maybe

3240
02:09:54,709 --> 02:09:53,360
that guy just has a lot more time on his

3241
02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:54,719
hands to be able to

3242
02:09:57,910 --> 02:09:57,040
to practice stuff like that dude is it

3243
02:10:00,550 --> 02:09:57,920
possible that

3244
02:10:01,990 --> 02:10:00,560
animals can learn things like that um

3245
02:10:03,589 --> 02:10:02,000
and we just don't know it you ever

3246
02:10:04,629 --> 02:10:03,599
notice like when your dog is just kind

3247
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:04,639
of zoned out

3248
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,239
or whatever and then like flinches but

3249
02:10:08,950 --> 02:10:08,159
his eyes are open like was that guy

3250
02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:08,960
meditating

3251
02:10:12,790 --> 02:10:11,520
you know it you know there'd have to be

3252
02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:12,800
some some research done

3253
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:14,560
obviously but birdie's usually just

3254
02:10:18,149 --> 02:10:16,079
staring at a squirrel

3255
02:10:19,589 --> 02:10:18,159
right right but you know and you know

3256
02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:19,599
the human mind is

3257
02:10:25,910 --> 02:10:23,119
is capable of of whatever

3258
02:10:26,629 --> 02:10:25,920
whatever that is yeah and we know that

3259
02:10:29,030 --> 02:10:26,639
dogs

3260
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:29,040
dream because we do come across them

3261
02:10:39,350 --> 02:10:36,390
every day every day that's that's uh

3262
02:10:40,069 --> 02:10:39,360
you know they have minds too so for sure

3263
02:10:42,470 --> 02:10:40,079
i mean

3264
02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:42,480
it's possible anything i guess is

3265
02:10:44,709 --> 02:10:44,079
possible we just haven't done the

3266
02:10:47,910 --> 02:10:44,719
research

3267
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:47,920
because again money follow the money

3268
02:10:53,589 --> 02:10:51,520
honey so uh with the ufo

3269
02:10:55,669 --> 02:10:53,599
community as we've seen in the last few

3270
02:10:58,149 --> 02:10:55,679
years there's been like this

3271
02:10:59,270 --> 02:10:58,159
this push and obviously it's in front of

3272
02:11:02,310 --> 02:10:59,280
everybody now and

3273
02:11:03,750 --> 02:11:02,320
and i attribute it to this this this

3274
02:11:05,990 --> 02:11:03,760
reason right like there's got to be a

3275
02:11:07,990 --> 02:11:06,000
reason why it's important and i think

3276
02:11:10,069 --> 02:11:08,000
what really irks me is that it's been

3277
02:11:11,910 --> 02:11:10,079
put in this light that

3278
02:11:13,350 --> 02:11:11,920
i know we're kind of delving into ufos

3279
02:11:15,430 --> 02:11:13,360
and aliens really quick but this does

3280
02:11:17,430 --> 02:11:15,440
apply i think to this subject too

3281
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:17,440
is that they've come up with a national

3282
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:18,880
security reason which

3283
02:11:24,790 --> 02:11:22,320
yeah okay cool but like how do you

3284
02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:24,800
make like i feel like that puts a

3285
02:11:28,390 --> 02:11:26,239
negative film on the whole

3286
02:11:29,830 --> 02:11:28,400
the lens on the whole thing like i would

3287
02:11:30,229 --> 02:11:29,840
never want the government to say hey

3288
02:11:32,629 --> 02:11:30,239
guys

3289
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:32,639
also okay ufos might be a threat so

3290
02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:34,400
let's pay attention put some money to it

3291
02:11:36,709 --> 02:11:35,920
i would hate for the government to be

3292
02:11:40,149 --> 02:11:36,719
like

3293
02:11:40,790 --> 02:11:40,159
also bigfoot real also uh let's put some

3294
02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,800
money to it

3295
02:11:43,990 --> 02:11:42,480
national security threat it might be a

3296
02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:44,000
natural securities threat

3297
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:45,679
all of a sudden right it's like jeff

3298
02:11:48,310 --> 02:11:47,119
bezos says most of the packages go

3299
02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:48,320
missing because of bigfoot

3300
02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:52,000
like yeah well we know

3301
02:11:57,270 --> 02:11:56,079
that uh you know just to go to the ufo

3302
02:11:59,270 --> 02:11:57,280
thing for a second

3303
02:12:01,189 --> 02:11:59,280
the reason you know one of the very

3304
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:01,199
logical reasons for them to put

3305
02:12:04,790 --> 02:12:03,520
a national security spin on the

3306
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:04,800
phenomenon

3307
02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:07,920
is that it will excuse all of their

3308
02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:09,360
dealings with it

3309
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:12,800
since 1947 right right you know it will

3310
02:12:16,229 --> 02:12:15,440
allow them to have an escape and say

3311
02:12:18,550 --> 02:12:16,239
look guys

3312
02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:18,560
the reason why we kept this from you is

3313
02:12:23,510 --> 02:12:19,520
actually because

3314
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:23,520
it's a national security issue and uh

3315
02:12:29,030 --> 02:12:26,400
i firmly believe that that it's not a

3316
02:12:31,750 --> 02:12:29,040
conspiracy and people have been always

3317
02:12:32,149 --> 02:12:31,760
uh calling the ufo issue a conspiracy

3318
02:12:34,950 --> 02:12:32,159
it's

3319
02:12:35,669 --> 02:12:34,960
a truth embargo and the truth embargo

3320
02:12:37,030 --> 02:12:35,679
means that

3321
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:37,040
you know when you have an embargo on

3322
02:12:41,350 --> 02:12:39,280
something it can't be discussed yet

3323
02:12:44,550 --> 02:12:41,360
let's talk about a new iphone or

3324
02:12:47,189 --> 02:12:44,560
something there's a

3325
02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:47,199
non-disclosure agreement that a reviewer

3326
02:12:50,709 --> 02:12:48,400
has to sign

3327
02:12:52,069 --> 02:12:50,719
until they're allowed to talk about it

3328
02:12:54,069 --> 02:12:52,079
and the press

3329
02:12:55,510 --> 02:12:54,079
and all these different government

3330
02:12:58,709 --> 02:12:55,520
agencies have been given

3331
02:13:00,870 --> 02:12:58,719
an embargo on that issue and it's very

3332
02:13:04,790 --> 02:13:00,880
possible that there is an embargo issue

3333
02:13:09,030 --> 02:13:04,800
on bigfoot maybe it's very possible

3334
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:09,040
we know that um we know that

3335
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:12,800
the uh throughout history there's been

3336
02:13:20,069 --> 02:13:15,920
uh government agencies interested in it

3337
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:20,079
and have investigated cases the fbi has

3338
02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:24,880
and there's a army corps of engineers

3339
02:13:30,950 --> 02:13:28,320
atlas that came out of washington state

3340
02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:30,960
and they have a page dedicated to

3341
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:31,760
bigfoot

3342
02:13:35,750 --> 02:13:34,239
and it shows all of the recent sightings

3343
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:35,760
during the 70s

3344
02:13:42,149 --> 02:13:39,280
in the rainforest around oregon

3345
02:13:44,310 --> 02:13:42,159
washington and california and the army

3346
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:44,320
corps of engineers are pretty smart lads

3347
02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:46,079
they're not going to be putting a fable

3348
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:46,880
creature

3349
02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:50,159
in their uh atlas they're you know

3350
02:13:53,750 --> 02:13:52,159
they're going to put only credible

3351
02:13:56,470 --> 02:13:53,760
things and so they're

3352
02:13:59,189 --> 02:13:56,480
literally saying beware if you're going

3353
02:14:02,709 --> 02:13:59,199
to be in these forested areas

3354
02:14:04,470 --> 02:14:02,719
of these regions in the united states

3355
02:14:05,750 --> 02:14:04,480
you might run into something like this

3356
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:05,760
because there's been

3357
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:07,920
many accounts of people running into

3358
02:14:12,069 --> 02:14:09,199
this and it has a

3359
02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:12,079
illustration of a bigfoot and such right

3360
02:14:16,069 --> 02:14:12,960
so

3361
02:14:18,149 --> 02:14:16,079
um there may be an embargo there i've

3362
02:14:22,149 --> 02:14:18,159
spoken before about it that maybe

3363
02:14:24,390 --> 02:14:22,159
it's an environmental uh

3364
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:24,400
there's a lot of industry there's pulp

3365
02:14:28,790 --> 02:14:25,360
and paper

3366
02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:28,800
and logging that's going on throughout

3367
02:14:33,189 --> 02:14:29,920
north america

3368
02:14:36,550 --> 02:14:33,199
it it could be a protect

3369
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:36,560
the jobs type situation where if you

3370
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:40,000
say hey this thing exists well you can't

3371
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:42,960
log there anymore you shut down industry

3372
02:14:47,189 --> 02:14:43,840
and

3373
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:47,199
um there's a very credible evidence of

3374
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:47,920
this

3375
02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:53,440
throughout time when certain species

3376
02:14:56,629 --> 02:14:54,960
have been discovered

3377
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:56,639
still existing and they have to shut

3378
02:15:01,750 --> 02:14:58,560
down um

3379
02:15:02,709 --> 02:15:01,760
work in forested areas uh yeah that's a

3380
02:15:05,510 --> 02:15:02,719
huge thing

3381
02:15:06,470 --> 02:15:05,520
like when there's an endangered species

3382
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:06,480
in the environment

3383
02:15:11,750 --> 02:15:09,520
like that halts any construction

3384
02:15:12,550 --> 02:15:11,760
sorry to cut you off but i just i got

3385
02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:12,560
excited

3386
02:15:15,750 --> 02:15:14,480
all the more reason to start growing him

3387
02:15:19,030 --> 02:15:15,760
nationwide right

3388
02:15:22,229 --> 02:15:19,040
again yo man yeah

3389
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:22,239
for sure and end her her uh and and the

3390
02:15:26,229 --> 02:15:23,040
brother right

3391
02:15:28,870 --> 02:15:26,239
yep so uh

3392
02:15:29,830 --> 02:15:28,880
yeah i mean like definitely that that

3393
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:29,840
could be

3394
02:15:37,669 --> 02:15:34,000
it's speculation um i know that in

3395
02:15:41,430 --> 02:15:37,679
uh tasmania australia there's been

3396
02:15:44,629 --> 02:15:41,440
tales of the tasmanian tiger which is a

3397
02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:44,639
uh thought to be extinct thyla

3398
02:15:49,030 --> 02:15:47,360
the thylacine is a thought to be extinct

3399
02:15:53,189 --> 02:15:49,040
sort of marsupial

3400
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:53,199
type dog and has like tiger stripes on

3401
02:15:57,189 --> 02:15:53,920
its back

3402
02:16:00,709 --> 02:15:57,199
and its jowl is you know it can

3403
02:16:04,149 --> 02:16:00,719
its jaw can extend really wide

3404
02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:04,159
wider than a dog's can and

3405
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:06,639
there's video of it in captivity in the

3406
02:16:11,030 --> 02:16:08,880
1950s in black and white

3407
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:11,040
but there's people that live in tasmania

3408
02:16:15,270 --> 02:16:12,400
that even today

3409
02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:15,280
see them crossing in their headlights at

3410
02:16:18,149 --> 02:16:15,840
night

3411
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:18,159
going from one side of the road to the

3412
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:19,520
forest and

3413
02:16:26,229 --> 02:16:22,719
uh that type of thing and the biggest

3414
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:26,239
industry in tasmania is

3415
02:16:33,349 --> 02:16:30,079
lumber pulp and paper and

3416
02:16:36,070 --> 02:16:33,359
many of the governments officials

3417
02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:36,080
say there's no chance that the thylacine

3418
02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:38,160
still exists

3419
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:40,800
it's a fox that people have seen that

3420
02:16:43,750 --> 02:16:41,920
type of thing

3421
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:43,760
and people have recorded video taken

3422
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:45,120
pictures so

3423
02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:47,120
it could be very similar to the bigfoot

3424
02:16:50,549 --> 02:16:48,639
issue uh

3425
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:50,559
many of the same accounts happen it's

3426
02:16:55,190 --> 02:16:51,760
peop the

3427
02:16:57,509 --> 02:16:55,200
widest amount of sightings are

3428
02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:57,519
people seeing these things at night

3429
02:17:01,509 --> 02:16:59,040
crossing in their headlights

3430
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:01,519
and it's a fleeting glimpse this thing

3431
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:03,280
is in the forest pretty quickly

3432
02:17:07,750 --> 02:17:05,920
you know yeah yeah yeah because there's

3433
02:17:09,509 --> 02:17:07,760
that law in north america that if you

3434
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:09,519
come across a new species or an

3435
02:17:13,669 --> 02:17:11,120
endangered species

3436
02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:13,679
right you like you you can't kill it

3437
02:17:16,629 --> 02:17:14,319
it's

3438
02:17:18,709 --> 02:17:16,639
you you get prison time so if you

3439
02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:18,719
discover a new species in this area

3440
02:17:21,830 --> 02:17:20,880
there has to be a certain amount of time

3441
02:17:23,669 --> 02:17:21,840
that goes by

3442
02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:23,679
so they can continue researching and

3443
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:25,120
seeing how much

3444
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:28,479
of this new species that they find

3445
02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:31,040
so you know like anything that we've

3446
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:32,960
covered before joe

3447
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:34,960
like it like we always say follow the

3448
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:37,200
money dude follow the money and it

3449
02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:39,280
usually goes back to the government

3450
02:17:44,790 --> 02:17:42,479
government that's one word government

3451
02:17:47,030 --> 02:17:44,800
government dave what do you think about

3452
02:17:50,309 --> 02:17:47,040
all this brother

3453
02:17:51,750 --> 02:17:50,319
which part what do you think

3454
02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:51,760
what do you think about follow the money

3455
02:17:56,709 --> 02:17:53,439
is there any any gravity in your

3456
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:56,719
experience to that um you know i don't

3457
02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:58,319
have anything other than

3458
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:01,679
speculation as uh and i agree with most

3459
02:18:04,549 --> 02:18:03,599
of the speculation that's been talked

3460
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:04,559
about

3461
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:06,880
i've always asked the question of other

3462
02:18:12,389 --> 02:18:09,280
researchers that are out in the field

3463
02:18:15,110 --> 02:18:12,399
doing what we do okay uh

3464
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:15,120
once bigfoot is discovered what then

3465
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:15,760
yeah

3466
02:18:21,750 --> 02:18:20,479
how do you feel about the new law in

3467
02:18:24,790 --> 02:18:21,760
oklahoma

3468
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:24,800
that is they're uh allowing the hunting

3469
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:26,880
license for bigfoot

3470
02:18:30,709 --> 02:18:29,760
i thought they were shut down where were

3471
02:18:33,190 --> 02:18:30,719
they

3472
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:33,200
i'm serious i thought that that uh that

3473
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:34,479
made headlines but

3474
02:18:38,309 --> 02:18:36,479
also within like the next day they were

3475
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:38,319
like no no no no oh wow

3476
02:18:42,549 --> 02:18:40,559
wow i wasn't aware of that i wasn't

3477
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:42,559
aware of looking it up right now

3478
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:44,880
that's okay yeah in oklahoma i saw that

3479
02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:46,399
that's quite interesting

3480
02:18:50,150 --> 02:18:48,160
yeah they should they should establish

3481
02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:50,160
that in every state

3482
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:52,479
that there's credible sightings and and

3483
02:18:58,309 --> 02:18:54,559
that would basically

3484
02:19:01,830 --> 02:18:58,319
make this story manifest itself

3485
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:01,840
in in reality for sure pretty quickly

3486
02:19:05,349 --> 02:19:04,240
my assumption is that this lawmaker was

3487
02:19:09,270 --> 02:19:05,359
doing it as a

3488
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:09,280
joke um but uh most things they do is a

3489
02:19:13,349 --> 02:19:10,000
joke well

3490
02:19:15,110 --> 02:19:13,359
the the the law was not to harm

3491
02:19:17,349 --> 02:19:15,120
the creature it wasn't uh i think the

3492
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:17,359
law is established not to actually like

3493
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:20,719
kill it it's the hunting is literally

3494
02:19:26,790 --> 02:19:24,960
a um shoot with a camera i i remember

3495
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:26,800
it's yeah shoot with a camera

3496
02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:30,240
and try and track it down

3497
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:32,719
which is kind of cool yeah if i when i

3498
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:34,000
read read that i was

3499
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:36,399
like okay this guy and there's like

3500
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:38,399
twenty five thousand dollars

3501
02:19:44,790 --> 02:19:40,719
it says it says oklahoma bill would only

3502
02:19:46,549 --> 02:19:44,800
permit the trapping of a sasquatch

3503
02:19:48,710 --> 02:19:46,559
you can't kill it i'm just reading that

3504
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:48,720
just just now just reading that bigfoot

3505
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:50,399
slaughter wouldn't be covered by the

3506
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:51,120
license

3507
02:19:54,389 --> 02:19:52,800
so you would go to prison if you killed

3508
02:19:57,130 --> 02:19:54,399
it i would hope so

3509
02:20:00,830 --> 02:19:57,140
yeah well best of luck

3510
02:20:03,190 --> 02:20:00,840
[Laughter]

3511
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:03,200
yes the fact that that

3512
02:20:11,030 --> 02:20:06,640
is even a thing shows that that

3513
02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:11,040
there's such a interest there's such a

3514
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:15,120
uh you know people civilian researchers

3515
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:18,080
which would be myself or even david and

3516
02:20:22,150 --> 02:20:18,800
and

3517
02:20:24,710 --> 02:20:22,160
are all

3518
02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:24,720
civilian researchers and they've done

3519
02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:25,200
such a

3520
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:28,399
good job at providing proof over the

3521
02:20:33,670 --> 02:20:30,000
years that something is out

3522
02:20:36,630 --> 02:20:33,680
there um that the public is

3523
02:20:37,590 --> 02:20:36,640
at an all-time high i believe interested

3524
02:20:41,030 --> 02:20:37,600
in the subject

3525
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:41,040
and proving its validity and i mean

3526
02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:43,840
who knows like maybe this year if

3527
02:20:49,349 --> 02:20:45,920
disclosure becomes even bigger in

3528
02:20:50,469 --> 02:20:49,359
in the ufo phenomenon uh the government

3529
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:50,479
might even be

3530
02:20:55,110 --> 02:20:54,240
saying um you know here's a hotline for

3531
02:20:58,389 --> 02:20:55,120
you to make

3532
02:21:01,429 --> 02:20:58,399
credible reports about ufos and uh

3533
02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:01,439
here's a new like template that we want

3534
02:21:04,389 --> 02:21:03,520
people to follow in order to rule out

3535
02:21:08,150 --> 02:21:04,399
what they're seeing

3536
02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:08,160
you know yeah it's crazy i think we're

3537
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:10,080
on the verge of these types of things

3538
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:11,359
right

3539
02:21:16,150 --> 02:21:13,760
i think it's uh you know due to uh folks

3540
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:16,160
like darcy that's bringing this to the

3541
02:21:19,830 --> 02:21:19,120
forefront uh by doing documentaries to

3542
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:19,840
you know

3543
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:22,720
to show some fact-based evidence that's

3544
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:23,600
really going to help

3545
02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:26,880
uh give it some credibility and legs

3546
02:21:31,910 --> 02:21:29,280
now i think that it was like maybe a

3547
02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:31,920
year ago that i had heard of a poll

3548
02:21:36,389 --> 02:21:34,240
that was taken amongst the pa you know

3549
02:21:40,150 --> 02:21:36,399
just a normal population

3550
02:21:40,790 --> 02:21:40,160
of how many of you have even heard the

3551
02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:40,800
term

3552
02:21:46,550 --> 02:21:44,160
bigfoot or sasquatch and only 30

3553
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:46,560
had responded that they had wow so that

3554
02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:47,359
means that

3555
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:49,920
70 of the people don't even know what

3556
02:21:54,790 --> 02:21:51,760
the term means

3557
02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:54,800
so i mean we've we've got a long ways to

3558
02:21:58,389 --> 02:21:55,439
go

3559
02:21:58,870 --> 02:21:58,399
um you know we're we we are aware of it

3560
02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:58,880
because

3561
02:22:02,150 --> 02:22:01,600
you know we're aware of the strange and

3562
02:22:04,710 --> 02:22:02,160
so

3563
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:04,720
um yeah or and or you've had an

3564
02:22:08,790 --> 02:22:05,840
experience but

3565
02:22:10,550 --> 02:22:08,800
you know the most people aren't in the

3566
02:22:11,110 --> 02:22:10,560
woods most people don't live in the

3567
02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:11,120
country

3568
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:13,600
most people aren't on the intersection

3569
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:14,960
of where these creatures

3570
02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:18,000
would cross our paths so um

3571
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:20,080
that's a really good point yeah like the

3572
02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:21,040
set and setting

3573
02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:24,160
for a lot of people yeah like unless

3574
02:22:25,910 --> 02:22:25,520
you're out looking for it you're not

3575
02:22:28,630 --> 02:22:25,920
really

3576
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:28,640
most americans uh or and when i say

3577
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:29,600
america i mean

3578
02:22:33,030 --> 02:22:32,240
uh not to like yeah the general

3579
02:22:35,349 --> 02:22:33,040
population

3580
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:35,359
total north america yeah total yeah the

3581
02:22:39,190 --> 02:22:36,160
compliment

3582
02:22:40,389 --> 02:22:39,200
but okay so i guys i hope we're not

3583
02:22:40,870 --> 02:22:40,399
taking up too much of your evening

3584
02:22:42,710 --> 02:22:40,880
tonight

3585
02:22:44,550 --> 02:22:42,720
i think we're we're kind of closing i've

3586
02:22:45,030 --> 02:22:44,560
got one more question if you guys have

3587
02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:45,040
two

3588
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:48,240
yeah okay all right my question is my

3589
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:49,200
question is

3590
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:52,640
if you had the chance to uh hang out

3591
02:22:58,469 --> 02:22:54,880
with a sasquatch

3592
02:23:01,750 --> 02:22:58,479
for 10 minutes and that's a long time

3593
02:23:02,630 --> 02:23:01,760
uh with you know what would you what

3594
02:23:06,230 --> 02:23:02,640
would you

3595
02:23:09,270 --> 02:23:06,240
it if you could let's say that

3596
02:23:11,349 --> 02:23:09,280
uh language is no barrier um it's

3597
02:23:12,309 --> 02:23:11,359
you could see it he can see or he or she

3598
02:23:13,429 --> 02:23:12,319
can see you

3599
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:13,439
what would you say or want to

3600
02:23:21,030 --> 02:23:17,359
communicate uh with with that

3601
02:23:23,349 --> 02:23:21,040
well i would want to know what is their

3602
02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:23,359
aversion to humanity

3603
02:23:30,389 --> 02:23:26,479
seem

3604
02:23:33,429 --> 02:23:30,399
to be disgusted by our presence at times

3605
02:23:36,870 --> 02:23:33,439
and so what is it about us

3606
02:23:40,150 --> 02:23:36,880
that is uh disgusting to you

3607
02:23:43,030 --> 02:23:40,160
and that would be fun to know

3608
02:23:44,469 --> 02:23:43,040
i love it i love that dude so much yeah

3609
02:23:47,110 --> 02:23:44,479
that is awesome

3610
02:23:49,270 --> 02:23:47,120
um i would probably i'd probably say

3611
02:23:51,030 --> 02:23:49,280
something like uh

3612
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:51,040
have you ever thought of having a shower

3613
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:57,270
i'm smelling something right now

3614
02:24:00,389 --> 02:23:59,520
and i i've heard a bunch of people say

3615
02:24:02,790 --> 02:24:00,399
they they've

3616
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:02,800
been getting a bit of a waft smells like

3617
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:03,680
from under yeah

3618
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:07,120
from under cheese oh my gosh

3619
02:24:14,070 --> 02:24:11,040
well mine is uh was a uh was a joke

3620
02:24:16,630 --> 02:24:14,080
that also uh kind of

3621
02:24:17,670 --> 02:24:16,640
actually posed an interesting question

3622
02:24:19,510 --> 02:24:17,680
um

3623
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:19,520
you know photos and things like that

3624
02:24:22,309 --> 02:24:21,520
they always come out really strange and

3625
02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:22,319
blurry

3626
02:24:38,230 --> 02:24:32,080
you've watched too much mitch hedberg

3627
02:24:44,950 --> 02:24:42,150
yes yeah i mean it's a joke but he

3628
02:24:47,270 --> 02:24:44,960
he poses an interesting question man is

3629
02:24:50,950 --> 02:24:47,280
it possible

3630
02:24:53,670 --> 02:24:50,960
videos and pictures that seem to uh

3631
02:24:55,110 --> 02:24:53,680
affirm that theory you know like the uh

3632
02:24:57,429 --> 02:24:55,120
we were even discussing

3633
02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:57,439
the fact that some some people have had

3634
02:25:02,309 --> 02:24:58,960
this translucent

3635
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:02,319
experience right so maybe

3636
02:25:07,110 --> 02:25:04,160
maybe there's some credibility to that

3637
02:25:09,990 --> 02:25:07,120
but uh if it is just a primate

3638
02:25:12,550 --> 02:25:10,000
uh it could be the fact that their

3639
02:25:14,630 --> 02:25:12,560
subject is so far away from their

3640
02:25:16,389 --> 02:25:14,640
phone camera or something like that like

3641
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:16,399
it's not a dslr

3642
02:25:22,469 --> 02:25:20,560
that has a nice telephoto zoom right

3643
02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:22,479
here to tell you if you're looking at a

3644
02:25:27,190 --> 02:25:24,160
bigfoot and taking a photograph

3645
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:27,200
of it your hand ain't steady i could i

3646
02:25:30,469 --> 02:25:27,520
could

3647
02:25:32,070 --> 02:25:30,479
understand that yeah i do product

3648
02:25:34,070 --> 02:25:32,080
photography in my day job

3649
02:25:41,190 --> 02:25:34,080
and i will tell you this much it is

3650
02:25:45,190 --> 02:25:42,630
especially when you're especially when

3651
02:25:46,309 --> 02:25:45,200
your subject is like 40 feet away or

3652
02:25:48,150 --> 02:25:46,319
something and moving

3653
02:25:50,230 --> 02:25:48,160
exactly i'm used to shooting like

3654
02:25:52,389 --> 02:25:50,240
stationary tiny objects like

3655
02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:52,399
like a cell phone or a cell phone case

3656
02:25:55,590 --> 02:25:53,520
and it's like still

3657
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:55,600
really tough to get it all in focus like

3658
02:25:59,110 --> 02:25:56,800
your f-stop has to be

3659
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:59,120
through the roof i can't imagine getting

3660
02:26:02,230 --> 02:25:59,840
the light

3661
02:26:03,830 --> 02:26:02,240
and the subject is moving unless you're

3662
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:03,840
on manual mode and then at that point

3663
02:26:07,910 --> 02:26:04,960
everything's blurry

3664
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:07,920
and like grainy as [\h__\h] trees everywhere

3665
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:09,840
and i'm working with like a 500

3666
02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:11,680
camera which is kind of on the lower end

3667
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:18,790
well i've i've had witnesses had a cell

3668
02:26:23,270 --> 02:26:20,000
phone camera in their

3669
02:26:25,190 --> 02:26:23,280
hand and have witnessed a sasquatch

3670
02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:25,200
and never even thought to put the camera

3671
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:26,479
up to take the shot

3672
02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:33,270
you're seeing something that doesn't

3673
02:26:36,710 --> 02:26:35,280
exist and when you see something that

3674
02:26:38,790 --> 02:26:36,720
doesn't exist

3675
02:26:40,469 --> 02:26:38,800
who knows what's going to happen i can

3676
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:40,479
guarantee you you don't know what you're

3677
02:26:43,670 --> 02:26:41,120
going to do

3678
02:26:44,150 --> 02:26:43,680
right i actually have one one last

3679
02:26:46,309 --> 02:26:44,160
question

3680
02:26:48,150 --> 02:26:46,319
just sorry guys i'm building off of that

3681
02:26:50,070 --> 02:26:48,160
there's a scene in walter mitty

3682
02:26:51,349 --> 02:26:50,080
you guys seen the movie with the uh ben

3683
02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:51,359
stiller

3684
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:54,720
actually i have not oh no you guys

3685
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:56,080
should definitely watch that uh that

3686
02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:57,600
movie but there's a scene where there's

3687
02:27:19,670 --> 02:26:58,000
a

3688
02:27:22,389 --> 02:27:19,680
just

3689
02:27:23,349 --> 02:27:22,399
uh it's a very uh personal experience

3690
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:23,359
sometimes it's

3691
02:27:27,349 --> 02:27:25,520
just for you yeah so like if you were

3692
02:27:30,469 --> 02:27:27,359
given the the chance

3693
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:30,479
to choose would you rather if

3694
02:27:34,070 --> 02:27:33,120
would you rather just experience it and

3695
02:27:37,270 --> 02:27:34,080
not take a photo

3696
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:37,280
or have a really blurry experience and

3697
02:27:40,550 --> 02:27:38,080
have say

3698
02:27:42,389 --> 02:27:40,560
i i we can we can do this in post we can

3699
02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:42,399
figure it out later through mathematics

3700
02:27:47,030 --> 02:27:42,880
and

3701
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:47,040
that which would you choose

3702
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:49,200
well i try to take the shot but that's

3703
02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:50,560
my sitting here

3704
02:27:53,830 --> 02:27:52,880
calmly telling you that now if i take my

3705
02:27:55,670 --> 02:27:53,840
own advice

3706
02:27:58,550 --> 02:27:55,680
i probably won't even think about taking

3707
02:28:00,550 --> 02:27:58,560
the shots right

3708
02:28:02,389 --> 02:28:00,560
yeah yeah yeah well i would imagine

3709
02:28:03,590 --> 02:28:02,399
after like 10 years of research you're

3710
02:28:05,220 --> 02:28:03,600
like i kind of get at least

3711
02:28:07,990 --> 02:28:05,230
try and get a photo

3712
02:28:10,710 --> 02:28:08,000
[Laughter]

3713
02:28:11,670 --> 02:28:10,720
i think i'd agree with that i'd i'd

3714
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:11,680
tranq it

3715
02:28:17,349 --> 02:28:14,800
tie it up you know get a team of people

3716
02:28:19,190 --> 02:28:17,359
to carry it back to a truck or something

3717
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:19,200
yeah i want to i want to prove its

3718
02:28:22,389 --> 02:28:21,040
existence that's pretty much what i

3719
02:28:25,830 --> 02:28:22,399
would be trying to do

3720
02:28:28,710 --> 02:28:25,840
yeah well man i mean [\h__\h] guys this

3721
02:28:29,190 --> 02:28:28,720
has been amazing yeah this is literally

3722
02:28:31,349 --> 02:28:29,200
like

3723
02:28:32,950 --> 02:28:31,359
yeah the most informative i i didn't

3724
02:28:34,469 --> 02:28:32,960
know where this was gonna go i just i

3725
02:28:35,990 --> 02:28:34,479
knew you guys knew your stuff and

3726
02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:36,000
i was like are we gonna ask the right

3727
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:37,600
questions but uh

3728
02:28:43,270 --> 02:28:40,800
i think good i think that

3729
02:28:45,030 --> 02:28:43,280
man that was such a great chat with you

3730
02:28:45,910 --> 02:28:45,040
guys and i feel like yeah anytime you

3731
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:45,920
guys want to come back

3732
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:48,640
on let us know like anything new that

3733
02:28:52,550 --> 02:28:50,080
you guys are working on

3734
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:52,560
um we've uh you know been doing the show

3735
02:28:55,349 --> 02:28:54,479
for a little over what was about to be

3736
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:55,359
two years so

3737
02:28:58,790 --> 02:28:58,399
in june and in june oh yeah good job

3738
02:29:00,710 --> 02:28:58,800
guys

3739
02:29:02,070 --> 02:29:00,720
yeah man so we're just we're just really

3740
02:29:03,590 --> 02:29:02,080
loving it and just meeting people like

3741
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:03,600
you like thank you guys so much for

3742
02:29:06,950 --> 02:29:04,560
coming on tonight

3743
02:29:08,070 --> 02:29:06,960
we uh yeah we need to come up in uh and

3744
02:29:11,270 --> 02:29:08,080
and uh come come

3745
02:29:11,990 --> 02:29:11,280
check out you know uh your your your

3746
02:29:14,870 --> 02:29:12,000
team

3747
02:29:16,950 --> 02:29:14,880
uh and uh come and come and just check

3748
02:29:18,389 --> 02:29:16,960
it out maybe we can go on a little uh

3749
02:29:19,990 --> 02:29:18,399
a little expedition together or

3750
02:29:22,550 --> 02:29:20,000
something that would be fun yeah

3751
02:29:23,990 --> 02:29:22,560
okay find some of those spots in texas

3752
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:24,000
where people have seen

3753
02:29:28,230 --> 02:29:27,439
yes bigfoot let's go yeah we have

3754
02:29:30,950 --> 02:29:28,240
barbecue

3755
02:29:32,790 --> 02:29:30,960
and uh and uh yeah go hang out and see

3756
02:29:35,030 --> 02:29:32,800
if we can find some bigfoot dude

3757
02:29:36,070 --> 02:29:35,040
that would be awesome sweet sweet sweet

3758
02:29:38,469 --> 02:29:36,080
and hemp

3759
02:29:40,309 --> 02:29:38,479
we'll get some help definitely

3760
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:40,319
definitely yeah we'll keep it we'll keep

3761
02:29:45,030 --> 02:29:41,760
it secret obviously

3762
02:29:46,389 --> 02:29:45,040
you know is this his texas still we will

3763
02:29:49,429 --> 02:29:46,399
smoke weed but we will leave

3764
02:29:50,150 --> 02:29:49,439
no trace just like the uh the this

3765
02:29:51,750 --> 02:29:50,160
watched

3766
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:51,760
didn't they just pass the law and

3767
02:29:54,630 --> 02:29:53,760
totally legalize it in the united states

3768
02:29:56,870 --> 02:29:54,640
or

3769
02:29:58,950 --> 02:29:56,880
so it's not totally legalized in the

3770
02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:58,960
united states i know that they have done

3771
02:30:04,150 --> 02:30:00,640
a a law that

3772
02:30:07,750 --> 02:30:04,160
has a hemp so farmers can start growing

3773
02:30:08,150 --> 02:30:07,760
hemp um but it's very restrictive and

3774
02:30:10,469 --> 02:30:08,160
there's

3775
02:30:13,190 --> 02:30:10,479
so much that goes to it more and more

3776
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:13,200
states are legalizing recreational stuff

3777
02:30:19,110 --> 02:30:16,960
um and you know uh good good for them

3778
02:30:20,070 --> 02:30:19,120
good for them you know yeah i think uh

3779
02:30:22,630 --> 02:30:20,080
you know being a

3780
02:30:23,349 --> 02:30:22,640
being a big old uh red state which you

3781
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:23,359
know i

3782
02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:25,760
i i don't really care either way um i

3783
02:30:27,990 --> 02:30:27,680
don't see it happening here for a while

3784
02:30:30,150 --> 02:30:28,000
but

3785
02:30:31,030 --> 02:30:30,160
uh if they're smart texas likes their

3786
02:30:32,950 --> 02:30:31,040
money so

3787
02:30:34,070 --> 02:30:32,960
i think i think it's coming sooner than

3788
02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:34,080
later honestly

3789
02:30:36,870 --> 02:30:35,760
yeah that would be awesome yeah

3790
02:30:38,870 --> 02:30:36,880
especially if there's a lot of

3791
02:30:40,309 --> 02:30:38,880
regulation on oil and stuff

3792
02:30:43,429 --> 02:30:40,319
here in the near future it's like

3793
02:30:45,190 --> 02:30:43,439
pimples let's go ahead and switch to him

3794
02:30:47,190 --> 02:30:45,200
yeah yeah let's get the let's get the

3795
02:30:47,590 --> 02:30:47,200
hemp in the pipeline yep that's right

3796
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:47,600
dude

3797
02:30:51,429 --> 02:30:49,600
i got some hemp in my pipeline right now

3798
02:30:53,670 --> 02:30:51,439
i'm ready to go hit it

3799
02:30:55,190 --> 02:30:53,680
awesome great great chat with you guys

3800
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:55,200
we'll definitely have to do a

3801
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:58,080
ufo thing in the future and um projects

3802
02:31:01,750 --> 02:30:59,520
that i'm working on right now

3803
02:31:02,630 --> 02:31:01,760
i've got a documentary that just got

3804
02:31:06,230 --> 02:31:02,640
released called

3805
02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:06,240
uh volcanic ufo mysteries featuring um

3806
02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:09,280
stephen bassett and jaime mauson

3807
02:31:14,630 --> 02:31:13,040
um and i've got a crop circle one coming

3808
02:31:18,550 --> 02:31:14,640
out in march

3809
02:31:19,510 --> 02:31:18,560
and i'm editing a documentary on secret

3810
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:19,520
space

3811
02:31:24,469 --> 02:31:22,399
stuff right now so that's that's my

3812
02:31:26,389 --> 02:31:24,479
favorite one the secret space so

3813
02:31:29,270 --> 02:31:26,399
that's pretty interesting chat about

3814
02:31:31,750 --> 02:31:29,280
some stuff in the future yeah absolutely

3815
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:31,760
yes man dave tell the people where they

3816
02:31:34,469 --> 02:31:33,280
can find some of your research and

3817
02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:34,479
what's happening uh

3818
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:36,880
what what's what's next for you brother

3819
02:31:41,030 --> 02:31:38,000
well um

3820
02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:41,040
i'm getting audio sent to me all over

3821
02:31:46,070 --> 02:31:42,640
the country

3822
02:31:49,429 --> 02:31:46,080
i'm doing quite a bit of analysis of

3823
02:31:49,990 --> 02:31:49,439
come across a particular phoneme stream

3824
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:50,000
that has

3825
02:31:56,550 --> 02:31:53,120
my excitement

3826
02:31:57,349 --> 02:31:56,560
currently that may become a little more

3827
02:32:00,150 --> 02:31:57,359
known

3828
02:32:02,349 --> 02:32:00,160
when i post it to our our webpage our

3829
02:32:04,469 --> 02:32:02,359
webpage is

3830
02:32:07,910 --> 02:32:04,479
olympicproject.com so

3831
02:32:10,950 --> 02:32:07,920
if you uh all one word so if you want to

3832
02:32:12,790 --> 02:32:10,960
if uh contact me there if you have

3833
02:32:14,710 --> 02:32:12,800
some audio that you'd like for me to

3834
02:32:17,830 --> 02:32:14,720
analyze or look at

3835
02:32:19,990 --> 02:32:17,840
be happy to do that um just send me

3836
02:32:21,110 --> 02:32:20,000
an email and like i said my contact

3837
02:32:24,070 --> 02:32:21,120
information is

3838
02:32:25,750 --> 02:32:24,080
is on the webpage and i'd just like to

3839
02:32:26,790 --> 02:32:25,760
remind everybody if you have a cell

3840
02:32:28,870 --> 02:32:26,800
phone

3841
02:32:31,429 --> 02:32:28,880
uh become familiar with how to hit the

3842
02:32:34,870 --> 02:32:31,439
record button

3843
02:32:36,830 --> 02:32:34,880
yeah uh you'd be surprised what i can do

3844
02:32:40,070 --> 02:32:36,840
with audio that was captured over the

3845
02:32:43,190 --> 02:32:40,080
phone so i have the ability to

3846
02:32:46,309 --> 02:32:43,200
enhance audio through

3847
02:32:48,950 --> 02:32:46,319
a software that enables me to edit

3848
02:32:50,870 --> 02:32:48,960
in a spectrogram which is that visual

3849
02:32:51,990 --> 02:32:50,880
fingerprint that i was telling you about

3850
02:32:54,550 --> 02:32:52,000
so i can

3851
02:32:55,510 --> 02:32:54,560
enhance the audio of interest and

3852
02:32:58,389 --> 02:32:55,520
decrease the

3853
02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:58,399
the sounds that would degrade uh what

3854
02:33:02,150 --> 02:32:59,760
you're hearing so

3855
02:33:03,990 --> 02:33:02,160
uh send me anything and everything i

3856
02:33:07,830 --> 02:33:04,000
don't care what the quality is

3857
02:33:10,070 --> 02:33:07,840
i can i can clean things up so beautiful

3858
02:33:11,429 --> 02:33:10,080
yeah beautiful yeah that's great man and

3859
02:33:12,790 --> 02:33:11,439
if you ever have anything if you all are

3860
02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:12,800
doing like a meet-up or

3861
02:33:16,469 --> 02:33:14,319
you you have anything you want to like

3862
02:33:18,230 --> 02:33:16,479
promote or whatever send it to us man

3863
02:33:18,790 --> 02:33:18,240
and we'll throw it up on our page we'll

3864
02:33:20,790 --> 02:33:18,800
we'll

3865
02:33:22,469 --> 02:33:20,800
head it out on the website and the same

3866
02:33:24,469 --> 02:33:22,479
thing with you uh darcy man

3867
02:33:26,150 --> 02:33:24,479
like if you know you got your your new

3868
02:33:26,790 --> 02:33:26,160
documentaries coming out and all that

3869
02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:26,800
stuff

3870
02:33:30,630 --> 02:33:28,800
uh hit us up man and we'll definitely

3871
02:33:32,389 --> 02:33:30,640
share it and promote it and

3872
02:33:34,309 --> 02:33:32,399
and do whatever we can man i think all

3873
02:33:36,150 --> 02:33:34,319
this stuff is super awesome

3874
02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:36,160
and it's super important at the same

3875
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:37,840
time so we definitely want to get as

3876
02:33:42,389 --> 02:33:40,800
many eyes and ears on this as possible

3877
02:33:45,110 --> 02:33:42,399
yeah thanks guys that'd be awesome thank

3878
02:33:48,389 --> 02:33:45,120
you people can see out my uh

3879
02:33:52,830 --> 02:33:48,399
see my catalog of work

3880
02:33:58,070 --> 02:33:54,469
www.occultjourneys.com

3881
02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:58,080
uh and all of my trailers posters and

3882
02:34:02,150 --> 02:34:00,000
and a link to to watch the film

3883
02:34:05,030 --> 02:34:02,160
somewhere uh he's there

3884
02:34:07,270 --> 02:34:05,040
awesome awesome awesome all right and

3885
02:34:09,349 --> 02:34:07,280
this is uh this has been great guys uh i

3886
02:34:11,670 --> 02:34:09,359
love talking to you all

3887
02:34:12,469 --> 02:34:11,680
thank you all so much again and uh we'll

3888
02:34:14,150 --> 02:34:12,479
just uh

3889
02:34:15,510 --> 02:34:14,160
we'll stop recording and we'll we'll say

3890
02:34:17,830 --> 02:34:15,520
our goodbyes off air

3891
02:34:18,790 --> 02:34:17,840
and yeah all right okay sounds good guys

3892
02:34:21,110 --> 02:34:18,800
we'll talk to y'all later

3893
02:34:22,389 --> 02:34:21,120
all right thanks guys have a good night

3894
02:34:23,990 --> 02:34:22,399
bye take care peace

3895
02:34:29,510 --> 02:34:24,000
good night

3896
02:34:35,030 --> 02:34:32,710
yeah so that was super super cool man

3897
02:34:36,469 --> 02:34:35,040
i mean i uh you know i don't consider

3898
02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:36,479
myself to be like a

3899
02:34:41,750 --> 02:34:39,600
a bigfoot guy or like totally into

3900
02:34:43,990 --> 02:34:41,760
sasquatch do i do i believe that

3901
02:34:46,309 --> 02:34:44,000
something like that exists

3902
02:34:48,469 --> 02:34:46,319
yeah dude yes i believe in little gray

3903
02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:48,479
things that fly like balls of light

3904
02:34:52,550 --> 02:34:51,040
through [\h__\h] dimensions and stuff so

3905
02:34:55,670 --> 02:34:52,560
why wouldn't i believe

3906
02:34:59,110 --> 02:34:55,680
in uh some sort of of uh

3907
02:35:00,630 --> 02:34:59,120
ape that is hidden in the forest when

3908
02:35:02,630 --> 02:35:00,640
you know we're like i said we're

3909
02:35:05,349 --> 02:35:02,640
discovering new stuff all the time

3910
02:35:05,830 --> 02:35:05,359
right and there's just like we said man

3911
02:35:07,830 --> 02:35:05,840
i mean

3912
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:07,840
all throughout history it's not like

3913
02:35:11,510 --> 02:35:09,760
this thing is something brand new

3914
02:35:12,790 --> 02:35:11,520
people have been talking about it for

3915
02:35:21,110 --> 02:35:12,800
thousands and

3916
02:35:22,950 --> 02:35:21,120
yeah forever yeah this isn't something

3917
02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:22,960
that just came up into like

3918
02:35:29,830 --> 02:35:26,000
you know the 1800s

3919
02:35:32,950 --> 02:35:29,840
like this has been going on forever

3920
02:35:33,990 --> 02:35:32,960
and man when there's when there's smoke

3921
02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:34,000
there's fire

3922
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,840
a lot of times with a lot of these

3923
02:35:40,469 --> 02:35:37,280
things or a hippie

3924
02:35:42,469 --> 02:35:40,479
or a [\h__\h] hippie dude

3925
02:35:45,590 --> 02:35:42,479
you find smoke around those guys a lot

3926
02:35:48,630 --> 02:35:47,270
yeah but i love their both of their

3927
02:35:51,750 --> 02:35:48,640
approaches darcy's

3928
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:51,760
and david's like they're very scientific

3929
02:35:55,349 --> 02:35:52,560
about it

3930
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:55,359
uh they're not going you can tell that

3931
02:35:58,389 --> 02:35:56,880
they're not

3932
02:35:59,990 --> 02:35:58,399
trying to wear their heart on their

3933
02:36:02,710 --> 02:36:00,000
sleeves they're not saying right

3934
02:36:04,870 --> 02:36:02,720
guys just believe me guys i promise they

3935
02:36:07,190 --> 02:36:04,880
didn't never said it or ex

3936
02:36:07,990 --> 02:36:07,200
expressed any of those kind of vibes

3937
02:36:10,870 --> 02:36:08,000
they literally

3938
02:36:11,590 --> 02:36:10,880
said this is something that doesn't

3939
02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:11,600
exist

3940
02:36:15,110 --> 02:36:14,399
yeah but something strange has happened

3941
02:36:17,670 --> 02:36:15,120
it does

3942
02:36:19,590 --> 02:36:17,680
yeah i mean that's great man that's

3943
02:36:21,510 --> 02:36:19,600
great yeah also just great dudes that

3944
02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:21,520
was fun yeah that was a lot of fun

3945
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:23,920
for sure for sure well man this was a

3946
02:36:26,790 --> 02:36:25,600
pretty awesome episode it looks like

3947
02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:26,800
we're gonna have to go

3948
02:36:30,710 --> 02:36:29,920
and uh uh get ready for our our next

3949
02:36:33,590 --> 02:36:30,720
show coming up

3950
02:36:37,110 --> 02:36:33,600
yeah soon so about to be on sor dudes

3951
02:36:38,070 --> 02:36:37,120
based on radio dog

3952
02:36:40,150 --> 02:36:38,080
i don't know i don't know what we're

3953
02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:40,160
gonna talk about well i don't either man

3954
02:36:43,750 --> 02:36:42,000
but i need to rest my voice for a little

3955
02:36:44,150 --> 02:36:43,760
bit yeah yeah yeah let's hang out for a

3956
02:36:46,389 --> 02:36:44,160
little bit

3957
02:36:49,110 --> 02:36:46,399
yeah man all right guys well i hope you

3958
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:49,120
all enjoyed that hey don't forget to go

3959
02:36:54,230 --> 02:36:52,080
and check out phoenix shaving for all

3960
02:36:56,309 --> 02:36:54,240
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3961
02:36:58,309 --> 02:36:56,319
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3962
02:37:00,550 --> 02:36:58,319
our homegirls over at a redeemer

3963
02:37:03,670 --> 02:37:00,560
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3964
02:37:07,469 --> 02:37:03,680
for all of your sanity needs

3965
02:37:09,590 --> 02:37:07,479
and then uh go and check out ufo garage

3966
02:37:09,990 --> 02:37:09,600
podcast.com that is the new website we

3967
02:37:13,110 --> 02:37:10,000
have

3968
02:37:15,710 --> 02:37:13,120
changed it from ufo garage pc to it's

3969
02:37:18,230 --> 02:37:15,720
officially ufo garage

3970
02:37:18,630 --> 02:37:18,240
podcast.com and you're going to want to

3971
02:37:22,070 --> 02:37:18,640
go

3972
02:37:22,389 --> 02:37:22,080
there to check out all of this stuff for

3973
02:37:29,590 --> 02:37:22,399
your

3974
02:37:30,389 --> 02:37:29,600
we're we're pretty much uh you know got

3975
02:37:33,270 --> 02:37:30,399
everything we

3976
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:33,280
updated the site uh we've got uh some

3977
02:37:36,870 --> 02:37:34,080
some new

3978
02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:36,880
people that were uh hanging out with new

3979
02:37:40,070 --> 02:37:38,080
friends scroll down

3980
02:37:41,590 --> 02:37:40,080
so i can kind of we got new friends yep

3981
02:37:44,309 --> 02:37:41,600
yep so we've got the bob

3982
02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:44,319
podcast up there uh you can learn more

3983
02:37:47,830 --> 02:37:45,040
about them

3984
02:37:49,830 --> 02:37:47,840
on our website what if tomorrow podcast

3985
02:37:53,110 --> 02:37:49,840
you can also learn more about them

3986
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:53,120
uh sor spaced out radio with dave scott

3987
02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:54,720
you can learn more about them on our

3988
02:37:58,950 --> 02:37:56,000
website as well

3989
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:58,960
uap expedition so some of you guys have

3990
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:00,160
heard uh

3991
02:38:06,070 --> 02:38:03,760
gary voorhees on the show um and so

3992
02:38:07,510 --> 02:38:06,080
he's uh he's running that thing right

3993
02:38:09,750 --> 02:38:07,520
now uap

3994
02:38:11,990 --> 02:38:09,760
expeditions go check them out small

3995
02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:12,000
batch redeemer we just talked about them

3996
02:38:17,590 --> 02:38:15,600
and uap research um you can check them

3997
02:38:20,389 --> 02:38:17,600
out on our website as well

3998
02:38:21,110 --> 02:38:20,399
um and you can also find us on their

3999
02:38:24,389 --> 02:38:21,120
website

4000
02:38:27,510 --> 02:38:24,399
and uh man they have awesome

4001
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:27,520
uh some articles videos they stay in

4002
02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:28,479
articles

4003
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:31,280
pretty legit news um so if you're ever

4004
02:38:35,429 --> 02:38:32,800
like man i just can't

4005
02:38:36,630 --> 02:38:35,439
seem to get a grasp on this ufo stuff it

4006
02:38:38,870 --> 02:38:36,640
all seems a little

4007
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:38,880
a little uh strange or it sounds like

4008
02:38:43,190 --> 02:38:39,920
[\h__\h] to me

4009
02:38:45,750 --> 02:38:43,200
go to uap research check those guys out

4010
02:38:49,270 --> 02:38:45,760
because they're doing a lot of legit

4011
02:38:50,950 --> 02:38:49,280
research and uh they're super awesome

4012
02:38:54,469 --> 02:38:50,960
you can find all kinds of cool

4013
02:38:56,550 --> 02:38:54,479
articles podcasts uh just little videos

4014
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:56,560
and things like that so uh give it a

4015
02:38:59,270 --> 02:38:57,280
listen

4016
02:39:00,550 --> 02:38:59,280
and uh they've also started their own

4017
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:00,560
little podcast called

4018
02:39:04,550 --> 02:39:04,000
the ufo show um so you can go check them

4019
02:39:09,590 --> 02:39:04,560
out

4020
02:39:11,510 --> 02:39:09,600
um other than that uh 11 o'clock

4021
02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:11,520
sorry dude ufo garage we're gonna be

4022
02:39:13,990 --> 02:39:13,520
live dude i mean by the time people hear

4023
02:39:16,150 --> 02:39:14,000
this it's

4024
02:39:17,830 --> 02:39:16,160
gonna be it'll be too late we'll post

4025
02:39:19,590 --> 02:39:17,840
it'll be it'll be on there yeah

4026
02:39:21,590 --> 02:39:19,600
dude good stuff man yeah tonight's

4027
02:39:22,630 --> 02:39:21,600
episode was so fun dude sasquatch yeah

4028
02:39:25,670 --> 02:39:22,640
come on

4029
02:39:27,510 --> 02:39:25,680
yes thank you to darcy weir david ellis

4030
02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:27,520
you guys were freaking awesome

4031
02:39:30,630 --> 02:39:29,359
good stuff so good stuff we gotta have

4032
02:39:32,870 --> 02:39:30,640
both of them on

4033
02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:32,880
and uh uh we gotta go we gotta go we

4034
02:39:36,570 --> 02:39:34,720
gotta go we're looking for

4035
02:39:42,309 --> 02:39:36,580
something stopping the field

4036
02:39:49,270 --> 02:39:47,429
this was another episode of ufo garage

4037
02:39:50,950 --> 02:39:49,280
y'all come back now you're here okay

4038
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:50,960
i'll tell you what if you have biscuits

4039
02:39:54,309 --> 02:39:52,080
i'll come over here

4040
02:39:57,710 --> 02:39:54,319
what what time y'all open have biscuits

4041
02:40:04,830 --> 02:39:57,720
for days baby

4042
02:40:07,110 --> 02:40:04,840
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